1. Introduction and Speaker Background
The hosts introduce Tanya and explain why she was invited to speak. Tanya briefly greets the group and prepares to share her experience.
Is my daughter, grandmother.
Vancouver so far from us?
And she's.So she's Chinese.She's a traditional medicine doctor since 30 years and she's using Doterra oils and products since 15 years.
You know why?I lost track.I've lost track.No, it's been a.It's been a long time.Yeah, I've lost track.
Yes, at least 10 years.I think at least
And so we asked Tanya because last year, year we had so many requests from people from the team.So from you, how can I help?Maybe someone from my family with a cancer or sometimes also from clients.And with Cami, we were like, okay, can we say something?And so we asked Tanya because in the US and Canada that they are more used to use the oils.
They use it since so many years compared to us.And also they don't have this.The compliant rules we have in Europe for the moment, but I'm sure
So they are very confident about sharing like really efficient protocols on chronic disease and also cancer.And most of all, we have the luck, the huge luck to have Tanya in our offline.So.Well, we.We are blessed for this and to.To receive all the teachings she received during her career.
So.Voila.So let's share the story you have.Thank you.
Merci pocou.Pardon.My French is very poor, but I am so grateful to be able to meet everybody and I thank you for the invite.I'm available as frequently as you need me.I.
You're going to be translating into French.
2. Personal Cancer Story and Rising Cases
Tanya shares a recent breast cancer diagnosis in a close friend and reflects on the rise in cancer cases since COVID. She emphasizes how shocking cancer can be even without obvious symptoms.
I'm going to tell you a quick story and then it'll be easy to translate.
I've been treating cancer patients now for a decade and one of my closest friends just got diagnosed with an aggressive form of breast cancer.And she had no symptoms.Zero.
And she had been my patient for 10 years.
And she has no fatigue, no problem being self expressed, she's an athlete, she eats well.And then one day she noticed she had.This is the only symptom.She had a little bit of fluid coming out of her nipple.Never happened before.
And she went straight to the doctor and after three weeks got diagnosed with an aggressive foreign breast cancer.
So this was 10 years ago?
No, this was like a week ago.
Just got diagnosed a week ago.
In the last, I'm going to be very honest, but since COVID I've been seeing a rise in cancer diagnoses.
I don't want to go into conspiracy theory here, but I think that stress and the whole world went through so much.I think that's contributing and toxicity is contributing to these diagnosis.But in this particular case, naize this woman, my patient got annual mammograms.You know, mammogram, right.
she did it and no, she's never had any problems.So within one year she went from having no.No problems to all of a sudden an aggressive breast tumor appeared in one.
Okay, I will try to.Oh yeah.
So thank you Nies and friends.You know, I am really looking at specifically breast cancer because most of us are in doterra are women.
So today, if you want to, I'd like to talk a little bit of the research that I've been doing.I've been researching on breast cancer and essential oils because I want to be very clear on what you can use, what you can't use.Is that.
Yes, thank you.So, yes, I think it's great.
And also ask lots of questions because I want to make sure that everybody gets value.Right.Okay.
First of all, I want to say how blessed we are to be connected with the Doterra brand because we don't have to worry about purity and quality.Because all of the research that I've been seeing on essential oils and cancer, they always stress how the research is inconsistent because of the lack of quality and purity.
I have to tell you that I was really emotional when my patient friend told me she got diagnosed with this cancer because as a doctor, I didn't see it coming and neither did she.So shocking.
3. Stress, Emotion, and Cancer Risk
The discussion turns to the emotional and personality patterns often seen in breast cancer patients. Tanya connects unresolved stress, overwork, and emotional suppression with illness.
How many times in the year do you have an appointment like for Chinese medicine with your friend?
She was coming to see me every once a month, sometimes a little more, depending if she wasn't, if she had injured or.Or if she needs some extra support.
She's introverted, you know, extrovert.Introvert.She's introverted, she's quiet.
And she is Asian.She's Asian, she's 59 years old and she is just a beautiful person, very loving, very caring like most women that I know.
But here's the interesting thing about breast cancer.
Most breast cancer patients, if you diagnose their personality, most of them are doing too much.
As a matter of fact, I don't know one breast cancer patient who has a very well balanced life that they would say that they're not overworked or overstressed.I think most cancer patients or breast cancer patients are so Used to having a very productive life that they don't even realize that they're stressed out or that they need to do less.
I think, I think you'll agree with me that as women we're conditioned to multitask and to take care of everybody and that we're always last.Do you agree?Yeah.
With every breast cancer patient there is going to be some emotional unresolved stress.Every single one.
And my patient, what had happened last year is her mother died and her siblings, she has four other siblings and they were fighting over the estate.
I can share also the life my mom had right before she also died and so on because it's very.
So it was one year before she has been diagnostic.
Me, my, my mom died.She has been diagnosed of a breast cancer two months after my brother left home to.To do his studies.She was also someone very productive and over giving.And she has been diagnosed.
From a liver cancer three weeks before.Three weeks after our dad, her dad died.
she, she, she died like less of one year after this.
Oh, and I use.I'm so sorry.
It's okay.Because it's a long time ago now, but it's okay.
You know, I see this all the time, you know, and essential oils can support the emotion.And this is where I'm getting at, where we all are going to experience big emotional events in our lives, but we're not taught how to take care of that.And we just continue to be productive and we become more and more stressed out and deficient.And that's a breeding ground for illness.
That's what I think.I think.I know, I know that for sure.
4. Breast Cancer Types and Oil Contraindications
Tanya answers a question about which essential oils may be contraindicated for breast cancer. She explains the main breast cancer subtypes and which hormone-related oils should be avoided in luminal cancers.
Okay.All right, so let's talk.Somebody sent me or sent you a question about which
To the question was which essential oils are most contraindicated for breast cancer.That was the question.Okay.Excellent question to answer.That is simple and complex because it's dependent on the actual specific diagnosis of the breast cancer.
So to answer that question, let's talk about diagnosis.Okay.Oh, first I'll let you translate.
Okay.So let's talk about the actual breast cancer diagnosis.And I'm going to do the chat as well.So there are four different kinds of cancer diagnosis.
And I'm going to cut and paste this.
So I'm going to cut and paste this in the.
Yes.And I'll put it after in the.Below the video.
Okay.So as you can see, there are four different kinds of breast cancer diagnosis.And it is, it's called Luminal A, which is the most common.Luminal B and then there's her two and then there's triple negative.So these are the four different types.
I guess we don't have to diagnose.You don't have to really translate that.Do you have.
With human epidermium growth, this is only for breast cancer.
The statistic, about 60, 70% is for like North America or Northern America.
Well, you know what, thank you for that.It could be global, actually.It could be.I have to.No, I have to check the, the stats on that.But yeah, So when you get diagnosed with cancer, with breast cancer, it's based on what type of cancer you have.Like luminal A, lunar, and then it's the invasiveness level of invasive invasiveness.And then third is.Has it metastasized, like, gone elsewhere?
So there would be like stage one, stage two, stage three, and stage four.So that will tell you.Stage one, two or three will tell you how far that breast cancer is.Stage four means it's metastasized.
Okay.So depending on what the diagnosis is, will tell you which essential oils you can cannot use.
So luminal cancers, luminal A and luminal.Luminal tumors or cancers, they are the most affected by estrogen and progesterone, which means hormone.So it's a hormone receptor tumors.And that does not do well with certain estrogenic essential oils.
So luminal A, which is the most common, it actually has the lowest.Like it will grow the slowest and has the best prognosis.If you get diagnosed with that, your success rate is like 95 to 99% cure rate for that.
luminal B is, has a.It can grow faster and is harder to treat.So that's a difference between luminal A and luminal B.
Both luminal A and B, you should avoid estrogenic or hormonal essential oils and possibly foods.So the top ones to avoid are clary sage, palmarosa, and a very specific form of geranium that we Doterra does not have.It's the rose scented geranium.We don't have that.We have geranium, but not rose scented.It's a very specific strain of geranium.So,
5. HER2 and Triple Negative Guidance
She discusses newer research on fennel and HER2-positive cancer, then explains the triple-negative category. Tanya stresses treating the patient, not just the diagnosis, and focusing on symptoms and support.
I want to throw in some interesting research.Okay, let me just, let me just tell you.
There was research done on fennel and I think ni, you and I had this discussion the Research says to avoid fennel because of its est.Possible estrogenic properties.But listen to this.
If you have the third type of cancer, which is H ER2, fennel is great for you.
It's been shown to actually, you know, stop the proliferation or the cells from multiplying.
So fennel is good if you have H E R2.So HER2, that stands for.
Let me just tell you, I didn't memorize this.Her 2 stands for.I'll write it down in the thing.Enriched human epithelial growth factor.So let me just hang on here.
Enriched with human epidermal growth factor receptor 2.
Is it fennels of only fennel, the oils.Only fennel.Okay.Oh,
you mean does it respond to only fennel?
in French phenol is a type of chemicals within some oils.
You had a patient that was taking Digest then with fennel and she has breast cancer.Or somebody had that question.Was it you and I?Do you remember?
No, it was not me.But someone asked this.Yeah.A few weeks ago when we did the previous call.
That's right.So it would be interesting to know what.That.If you can actually find out who that was, that we should be asking her the diagnosis.Right.Because this is new research that came out, which is amazing.Okay,
So the HER2, statistically they say 12 to 20% of diagnosises are under this category.
Her2 is an aggressive form of breast cancer.
So the fourth one is the triple negative, Which means that the tumor is not luminal A, not luminal B, or HER2.It's called triple negative.This one is 10 to 15% of all diagnosis.
My patient got diagnosed with this particular cancer.
This one is the most aggressive and most difficult to treat.However, I like to say this one all.All cancer patients need love.But whoever gets diagnosed with this one, it's the biggest wake up call.Like they.
They deserve all the love and they.They gotta.There's no.There's no better way than a loving way.This is it.Their whole life has to change to how can I love more deeply?How can I love myself more deeply?And.And this one, you can use all the essential oil.
But let's be honest here.Really, really honest.
I personally think that no oil is completely contraindicated because frequency of use is a part of that caution.If you love the smell of Clary sage, if you smelled that once a week because you loved it, so much.I doubt that that's going to have a negative impact on your treatment, on your.If you were to slather it every single day you have a problem.But so understand it's relative.
Yes.The hr2 I would fall under.
HR2 is actually an aggressive tumor as well.I think in this particular category.And it's very.It's rarer, more rare.We have to be selective.
You know, it's.I would like to say that I treat the person, not the.Not the cancer.So you can get five her two patients together and they all may need something different.So I'm going to say why don't we shift our focus to treating the patient and treating the symptoms?
Because we're not here.We cannot technically say we're going to cure somebody's cancer.So why don't we focus on symptomology, like treating their symptom, treating the patient.And so thank you, Elise, for asking that question.
6. Internal Use and Practical Application
Questions shift to internal versus topical use of oils and the debate around safety. Tanya explains how she uses oils in practice and introduces her preferred options for cancer support.
Eloise had a question.She says used in all forms.Topic or internal?Okay, very good question.
Doterra is advanced in its research and usages.I know in Europe they don't recommend internal use at all.Right.Is that still the same?Right.They're very traditional,
like, very traditional aromatherapy.They don't recommend it.Yes, because they have kind of a thinking that it could be dangerous for the liver.
Doterra in Europe we still recommend that we can use oil internally, but we have a lot of very skeptical traditional people.Like.But it's moving.
Do you want to know what hurts the liver?Hand sanitizer.
Because it has chemicals and alcohol in it.Can you imagine how much hand sanitizer we used during COVID Right.Liver enzymes were elevated and skyrocketed.It's crazy.
Okay, let's talk about how to use.So it.It.So when I use essential oils in my office, I do all three.So smelling it and ingesting and topical.
Let's talk about how to use it specifically for your cancer patients or people with cancer.
I think.Actually, you know what?I think I gave you this list last time.These are the lists.This.I'm going to put it in the chat.This is the list.I. I did not make this.I copied this.It was fantastic.
These are the ones that are proven to be incredibly effective.But this is more topically or just aromatherapy.But they don't talk about ingesting.But obviously some you can't.This is how
So this is basic information, right?Very Very basic.And I pretty much use all of these in my practice.Not just with cancer patients, with all my patients.But I like to use the Breathe essential oil.
I would say in my practice, Breathe and Frankincense are my top 2.2 oils I use all the time.Why?Because Breathe is lungs, but also associated here.Lung, heart, breasts, the lungs.When we get hit with a diagnosis, we go, oh, my God, I have cancer.
Right.We have to deal with the shock and the stress.Breathe opens up the right.
7. Breathe, Deep Blue, and Frankincense
Tanya highlights Deep Blue, Breathe, and especially frankincense as key oils for emotional shock and spiritual support. She describes how these oils help calm the mind and support patients through crisis.
Do you have the deep blue stick?
Deep blue plus copaiba is the deep blue stick.The copaiba helps to calm the mind.I use this at night and I put it right here.
And it's very soothing, cooling, calming sleep.Really?Well, I got all of my.My cancer patients using that.
I think that Lila's question.
We'll just finish off my.My top.My top.I forgotten about deep Blue, but Breathe Deep blue and frankincense.Frankincense is the number one oil because it's literally good for every single cancer.
What I love about the frankincense is, yes, it's been proven to.
To reduce metastases, but we're not allowed to say that.But we.I can send you a.A link that you can read an article, but that's not why I love it.I love it for its spiritual and emotional properties.
Right.Frankincense is the oil of truth.Okay.
All the hair, my arms standing straight up like that.When that happens, it's very important.It's like.It's like two thumbs up.Okay.
When we have a crisis or we've been diagnosed, or someone we know is diagnosed, when we anoint on your heart chakra or your third eye with frankincense, the oil of truth, we are asking to see the truth, to know the truth.When you.When I have my patient, she has to understand what she needs to change in order to evolve.I also need to know the truth about what I can change within me to either prevent more illness or be supportive to my patient.I need to know the truth.
So that's why this oil is so important.And it's the most spiritually aligned.
La personal diagnostic, et cetera.
Such a beautiful job and I thank you.Okay.
I had a patient who passed away and she was using the frankincense and had it in her hand when she died.
She could not get enough of it.She loved it.I told her all about it.And she felt so comforted knowing that this oil was with her.It made her feel closer to God.
That's what it all comes down to.
Last time we talked, I said the very first thing you should do if you are diagnosed or have someone who's been diagnosed, treat the emotional shock that I keep repeating it, but that really is the most important thing Doterra has the emotion blends you can use I, I like some of them and don't like the others, but I still believe Breathe.I love Breathe.Okay.
Sometimes I just think about which ones the patient may like.I let them smell and they tell.I say which is the one you like the best?And whatever, which one they love the best.Then, then I'll put.They'll do the drop and they'll smell it right there and then.So that's what I suggest you do with your friends or yourself.Choose, have a few selections, choose which ones you think the person may like and ask them to choose the one they like it the best and use that right away.Okay?Breathe is my number one.
What we want to do is kind of like cut through stagnation.You know, when we get shocked, they might need balance, they might need breathe, they might want lavender to calm them down.Okay.Sorry I talk so much.Just.
8. Supporting Patients Before Treatment
She advises using the time between diagnosis and treatment to strengthen the body and emotional state. Tanya also explains how she supports mothers and babies when cancer or treatment affects breastfeeding.
There's always going to be some time between when a person gets diagnosed and when they do treatment.Sometimes it could be three weeks.In my mom's case it was actually I think four months, five months because of our system.I always say during that time between diagnosis and treatment, give the body everything it needs to boost the immunity.And I kid you not, long life vitality pack.
Take it if you're not already taken.Give the, if they're.They don't take it and then slaughter them with some oils, get them into some self care, boost them up.Because when they do, if they choose to do chemo or immunotherapy, they're going to tell them they can't take supplements.They're going to tell them that they don't want them to do anything.
So boost it up now and then in between.Like chemo may last six months and then, you know, after, then you boost them up again.But during.It's political.You gotta either follow the politics or if you want to be a rebel, then, then you take Chinese herbs if you want to be a
It's unfortunate because they most oncologists will refuse supplements because the chemotherapy is knocking you down.But the long life vitality is Building you up so they don't want anyone to take any supplements until the chemotherapy is over.That's generally what they recommend.
It's political.I keep saying that Ni.Because.
Because it's.It's not personalized enough.I think some people can get better results by combining many therapies together, but some people are so scared, they just follow what the oncologist says and that's it.So I think as practitioners, we should be just honoring the patient's wishes.And politically, we have to be careful what we recommend, because if they don't recover, they can come back and say, it's your fault.
I am available to offer suggestions for yourself or your cancer patients, which will make it easier for you because it will be more personalized.
Okay, I want to get.We have a few minutes.Right.I just want to go back to the questions.Can we address the breast cancer one or.Sorry, the breastfeeding a baby one.
I think city is que de contradiction.
I was looking for it.Oh, here, here.
Is there particular precaution for breastfeeding or pregnancy while I will.To breast cancer?
Oh, it's the same precaution that you.You already said depending on the type.
Oh, yeah.Okay.So here's the thing.If you're.If you are doing chemotherapy, they'll probably tell you you shouldn't breastfeed because the chemotherapy can go into the breast milk.
Yes.That would be the.So they'll probably tell you that you'll have to stop.If.If the mother has breast cancer or cancer.
I would treat the mother and the baby because the baby is going to feel what the mother is feeling.So I would recommend.Yeah, I would recommend that the.Because that's happened, I've had patients.In this case, I will anoint the oils on the mother and the baby.
And always with the baby, we dilute it.Even lavender.I dilute.I make it a very tiny dilution for the baby.And sometimes I just put it on a little cotton ball and put it under the baby's nose.
And then I ask the mother to speak lovingly to the baby, to let the baby understand what's happening, because I don't think we should insult a baby's emotional intelligence and spiritual intelligence.So those are my suggestions.And just keep addressing the baby as well.If you're the mother, don't just focus on you, because that baby's going to know something's wrong.
9. Questions on LLV and Treatment
The Q&A continues with questions about LLV during cancer treatment and how it fits with chemotherapy or hormone therapy. Tanya explains when she would avoid it and when it may be acceptable.
I have.Thank you.There's a question from Sandra.
Oh, hi, Sandra.Sandra.Okay, the question is.Oh, you might want to ask.Repeat that question.You see Nai's in there.
I'm going to say yes.LLV is great.Now let me tell you why.
In traditional Chinese medicine, we never prescribe or one herb.It's always 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or more together.When you take one herb and you mix it with another herb, it turns into.It's called synergy.Right.
blends and changes and safe when the LLV has peppermint, but when you mix it with all the rest, it changes.And I believe that the LLV is perfectly fine for you.I would not worry about it.
There's another question here, but I don't know what it is.It's from Val under
VAL said, like last time you said that during treatment someone may be rebellious, would.Would be.
Would decide to take llv, but that you say that alpha CRS was not good during the treatment, even if the person decide to take it, like by.By himself.
Yeah.When I was saying about being a rebel and taking things during treatment, that would be more like using traditional Chinese herbs or other products besides the doterra.Even the essential oils, they're fine, you know, like.
But not the llv.I wouldn't do the LLV during treatment because it boosts you too much.But I would use the essential oils to treat and calm the mind.And I would use Chinese herbs to help with side effects as well.That's my rebel patients, the ones who say, I'm going to do what I want to do.
And honestly, can I just say, they're the ones that do really well.You know, they.They live longer and they don't have as much side effects.They have a lot of happier life.So, yeah, In my research, I found that there are specific essential oils or plants that work very well with chemotherapy.
They actually enhance the effects of chemotherapy.And ni.I can send you that link because it's quite like, scientific, but it's good to have it.Right.So you can.
I'll send it to you and then you can send it out.
For people who speak English.Yeah.I think it's one of the best articles I've ever seen.It comes out of India.Amazing, amazing research.
However, the essential oils in this article are not Doterra or anything Doterra has.But still it's good research.
Can you repeat?Because I was reading a question,
I said that in this article, the essential oils they suggest are not part of the doterra.Line, but at least it's good research.
Okay, so Elise has a question that the.The doctor said it was okay, but are you.Elise, are you saying that the client is actually taking chemotherapy or hormone therapy, which is different?
Hormone.Hormone therapy.Yes.She had chemo before, and then the doctor said now it's okay.
Oh, perfect.Yeah.During chemotherapy, when you're killing the actual cancer cells and lowering the immunity, that's when we don't want to do the llv.But if it's hormone, fantastic, that's great.And that's validation.
Elise, for.For Sandra's question.So thank you.That's great.
10. Self-Care, Contact, and Farewell
Tanya closes with a strong reminder to prioritize self-care and set boundaries without guilt. She shares contact details, offers future support, and ends with thanks and goodbyes.
Well, look at those shiny faces.
Can I just say my.My.My parting suggestion is take care of yourself.
I love Doterra.It works.And if you are going to go blue diamond, you still need to take care of yourself.If you're building a business in Doterra, still take care of yourself.There's no race to the finish line.
Take care of yourself.We're all women.Get used to saying no without guilt.Get used to making yourself a priority.Make yourself a priority.
If you want to email me, I'm going to give you my personal email address.
Okay.I didn't know if it was okay with you because when people ask me, I say, maybe better contact Tanya through messenger.Do you prefer messenger or email?
The problem is I'm not really on social media at all.
I'm getting older and I'm not interested in.My time is so valuable.If I go on Facebook, it's three hours.I'm like scrolling.I don't have Instagram.
I took Instagram off my phone.That was terrible.And I would think I just lost three hours of my life.So messenger is fine.You can email me.This is my personal email.It's love God above all else.Gmail.com.and.And yeah, you can email me there or you're.Well, I mean, I do.I do WhatsApp, but.But if I don't know you, it doesn't really come through.So, yeah, Messenger, Messengers.
Let me try.If I can copy paste.
Oh, Caroline, so sweet.So sweet.Ask me questions.You can email me, message me.I'd more than happy to help you with your clients and.
Or yourself.So, Lila, we should have a conversation.And.And.And I love you all.
Thank you for loving Doterra.Use it.They are your plant allies.They are your medicine.Thank you, Anna.Ease.Sorry.I hope everyone understood my English, but I'm happy to come back when you want me to.I. I have nothing better to do than serve, so.And take care of myself.
Let me know if you have any other questions for the future.And let me know if you'd like me to come back.I'd be more than happy.