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Leo introduces how he started trading, his early mistakes, and the long path from losses to profitability. The discussion emphasizes mindset, overleveraging, revenge trading, and the emotional roller coaster of learning.
today's interview is a little special as Leo our ftmo Trader from Portugal used to be my colleague and worked for ftmo as well now he is a successful fdmo Trader and received $200,000 in rewards in total New Yorkstarts we have a stop hunt there and then we go shorts join me and let's see the breakdown of Leo's shooting strategy
enjoy hey Leo how are you man I'm doing great man thank you for for being here and uh yeah let's let's go for this looking forward to another amazing interview awesome so by the way for those of youwho might be watching us for the first time fdmo is a modern prop trading firm and we're looking for clients who we can provide ftmo accounts with up to $200,000 in fictious Capital so uh Leo here you've beentrading with us for quite a while I think you started back in 2020 right so it's going to be five years yeah yeah yeah exactly about during the covid-19 mhm okay so uh tell us a bit about thestory how you started trading like have you started like even before that before you're trading with with ftmo have you tried a life account or uh how does the story go yeah so basically I started in 2019 uh
basically how many people start was with the sign group and a lot of scammers and influencers trying to put you in groups so I started with that not demo trading already on Live accounts uh so I got intotrading because growing up I I was a regular kid with Big Dreams uh big goals so I I never F the regular pth I left High School never went to college because I want to put money working forme so I got the job I was a door too salesman and as soon as I got to Sav up some money I started looking for ways to invest money and I st on a cross trading basically mhmokay so uh there's one very special thing that I think we should mention and that is and which is really cool that we actually used to be colleagues you used to work at ftmo you used to work with
me so you've been uh in our company for like four years something like that and you left uh I think last year right because you were already trading because you were already making money trading with ftmo so that'ssuper unique so uh how long did it take to you to actually start seeing success in trading usually it takes several years so yeah it took me like uh I started in 2019 as I told and basically onceI started being profitable was uh when I got my first payout in fdmo was March 2023 when I was already you guys employee so yeah basically four years around that but uh it wasn't about the strategy because Ihave this strategy from 2020 2021 it was about the mindset because the psychology is everything in trading and the people have a big ego and they sometimes they can take the blame that tring isn't working because of the
strategy but because of their mindsets okay well we're going to talk more about the psychology later but what I'm interested in you said it was about the mindset so were you just like risking too much because that issomething we see very often I saw it with me as well so was that the thing or was it anything was it something else it was man you can name every error I did everything you can name everymistake from uh yeah so basically everything goes from having less Capital having no Capital because if you want to make money in trading you need Capital you can't make you can take like $100 $500 and make it bigso I did a lot of over overleveraging overexposure Revenge trading everything you nameit okay and so it took you like these three four years to really you know uh realize that you're making all these mistakes and gradually gradually
erase them and that's when you started being profitable yeah you you have to eat rck but them sometimes the life could go up you have to you have sometimes in trading you are only going make it when youhave only1 do left you understand so you are like yeah man this is it I have to make this time no excuses because sometimes you know you have a Prov strategy you know it works but you again youcome across these errors these mistakes that you don't learn you have to really go rock botton to no yeah I I have to change this as to to start working you know okay so it was like a realroller coaster this whole training Dre like it wasn't only getting better there were some some CS exactly yeah art fs and the when you think yeah I know it done it's going to work out no man yeah exactly
Leo explains why he focuses almost entirely on GBPUSD, uses only price action, and trades mainly the London and New York sessions. He breaks down his stop-hunt logic, entry patterns, stop placement, time frame choice, and why he avoids forcing trades.
exactly quick okay I've been looking at your fmo accounts and I Noti that you are focused primarily only at one symbol right you trade mostly gbpusd so uh why is that why is it so special to you manthis uh I tried mostly in the beginning the pounds because I like pounds they are very Vol volatile and in the markets if you don't have volatility you can't make money so I started with pounds I also hadanother pairs but uh looking at my trading journal my statistics was like let me see my most profitable pair and I found out it was gbpusd and if you cannot be consistent with one pair you are not goingto be con with two three whatever so you have to start with only one it depends also on your strategy because since I'm a DAT Trader one pair is enough yeah that that's what actually what I was about
to ask if it's enough for you to trade just like one pair because you know you see like you know some other Traders are just focusing or or several pairs at the same time but uh then here youare with trading just gu and still you're seeing massive success I think what I should mention here is that the total payouts you receive from ftmo is around $200,000 right maybe a little more than that so that's reallyimpressive okay thanks ni so okay so makes sense while it works there's no reason to change that exactly do this so are you just looking at pure price action or are you using some indicators as well no pureprice action the only indicator I use is to know the timings of the sessions London session New York session Etc but pure as price section I don't even use fundamentals I only avoid uh big impact news like fomc
NFP CPI and that's yeah it's better to stay out during these events that's for sure yeah exactly okay uh the strategy you said you had it from the beginning the same uh has the strategy really been the samefrom the beginning and the only thing you really had to work on was the mindset or have you made some changes some little improvements to the strategy along the journey as well okay that's a really nice question sobasically the fundamental of the strategy is always the same but you can trade it in many ways you have like uh you can do it in many ways for example details you know but uh I have to thestrategy I back test a lot and saw the way it work works better better for me and stick to it yeah and the rest was mindset mhm back testing that's uh uh important thing how did you how did
you back test the strategy so yeah back test for me I think was the key point also Str with my emotion and I see lot of lots of Traders faing with that because they jump right in the livemarket and that cannot happen you have to back test the strategy so I I just go to training view go back you know with the rip play button I pick bro literally I have like around 10 years ormore in back test on my Arch on Google shets detail it saying why did I pick the trade why did I enter why did I exit so you have to know in the long term the stat statistics andprobabilities of the trade so your mindset your subconscious can trust the the plan okay yeah so there's really a lot of how work actually behind the behind the result because I imagine back testing really you know takes probably
a lot of time to do it properly exactly exactly and like life people think trading is life trading but not in life trading you just apply what you already work you know on the backstage for me trading iswhat happens in the backstage okay that's really the C that's really cool to hear so basically you know uh the actual trading is just like the tip of the iceberg like most of the work happens on the backthing yeah exactly okay trading needs to be boring and easy it just place the trading CL the computer cool okay well Leah thank you for the introduction and well let's let's move on to uh the charts and let'ssee how you trade exactly right from the top I can see that you have the indicator that is dividing the sessions right I guess that's not what we're seeing yeah exactly I basically trade only the first three hours
of the L London and New York session that's what I like to focus on is it because of the volatility that tends to be the highest at this yes yes exactly because of the volatility and then and that'swhen the market is acing and when the big players I are coming on the screen as well uhhuh all right well uh if you don't mind then just go ahead and and show us how how you trade yeahof course so basically I start here session I like to take a look at what happened before so I took I saw I also I I always I liked the high of the day I have previous sessions sostarting London I highlight the high of the B which is the high of the ashs fessional and the low of the V so what I look here so let's say starting London what I look here is I always
always look for threats and stop hunts because the market to move Direction they need first to trap people misled them stop them out and then go into into the direction because you see a lot of Traders thinking ohman my stop loss was it by one pip to Pips and then the market went straight to my take profit yeah grabs the liquidity just quickly goes kills the trade but this goes to the direction yeah yeah weknow that exactly the market yeah we all been that though the market is always like that they stop people out they grab liquidity wherever so I start today so I follow my principle Buy Low sell High always soI need to F the high of the day and by the low of the day so here we are close to the high of the day so I'm looking to stop this so as soon as we have stopped
the high of the day I look for my reversal pattern which is basically the double top so I have it I have my break and res retest and after that you have the think okay basically after stopping thesepeople out we which which are making money here so people who are buying if if we want to sell we have to first stop the sellers so which what we we did we sto people were making money hereselling after stopping them you see a lot of people think we see the breakouts and retests done thinking no I'm going to sell this so I went for the pattern and after that I think okay where are wegoing to go now so I see we have the low of the day to stop out which is the Asia low it's interesting because Asia Asia for me it's a big must because I've back test a lot like
two years of back test I noticed that basically 80% of all the EAS station is stopped out both extremes you know both swing high and swing low so I use that in my favor so once I stop outthe Asia swing High I'm looking to short at the AIS swing low so we can see we have that movement here and once you we hit the LA the day we start New York session and I'm already lookingfor wi you know so I'm looking for my pattern to buy which is the level bottom in this case Al happen where yeah they break their test and we went again to the high of the day this isbasically freefor all game you know uh we are what we have to think okay where are the stop loss where are the where are we going next who who are we going to stop next you know I have
some trades here I can showcase them for you here in back test that's actually what I was about to ask about the stop losses because I think it's uh pretty easy to see how you determine which which wayis the market going to go which the way you think the market is going to go but the stop loss is so do you have like some some fixed amount like is it always the same rewards risk ratioor uh how do you how do you determine the stop loss okay regarding that my stop loss is I if I'm buying the low my stop loss needs to cover the lows that they presed here I'm entering onthis double bottom pattern after this break and retest of the neckline so my stop needs to be protecting the low of the day M and the T and the target I I like to use this ferment here which
is basically three times I see three times the pattern and I that's basically my my take profit in this case it was almost 3% but I I put on the high of the day because we still have theASA High to go for it you know okay and yeah once we hit the as High we are trading the New York station I basically look okay we are on the high of the day let's look out forfalse breakouts a lot of people I like to go against big candles you know because big candles misled people into that direction you see a big bullish candle here breaking the eye of the day man I'm telling youmillions of people are trying to buy this this breakout so you're seeing the big candles mostly As traps exactly exactly big candles be we big weeks pin bars for example we have this break here and then a lot
of people see this sorry it is weak rejection as a signal to buy you know as well me I'm looking for my pattern to sell which happened here neckline break retest and let's go for it so I triedto think okay what are most people thinking of doing here you know what are most rils doing here because it's not surprising that 90% or more of retail Traders lose because the market makes it that way you knowthe market market makers you know big institutions think okay what are most people most people going to do here you know and go on the opposite direction so I try to think opposite of the ret trade Traders youknow yeah I just I just was exactly thinking about this that this is something that that you're essentially doing you know so just thinking of what is the classic retail you're gonna do and just do the opposite and
as you said you know most of the it's a known fact that most of the people lose money while trading so you know if you're just going to do the opposite you're going to be the one making themoney yeah exactly because if you are making money for you to make money people have to lose money if you are losing money it means other people are making money if that makes sense for you so yeah lookfor trap stop hunts for example here it was a loss but it happens you know here what I see maybe because of this lot of rejections you know start of FL session we see a lot of weaks bearishENG go things okay a lot of people shorting this but before we short this there is going to be a stop hunt we have a big stop hunt which CA people to enter also at this breakout to buy
but for me this is going to be a reversal did happen Okay so this was my hand through here my setup it didn't happen this time of course it's probabilities basically goes around that I see PRS stop huntsI try to go against Market the the retail Traders for example we are training here London session we see Market rejection the highs we have the the Dian High here lot of people are shorting already here because ofthis big week if you say oh big week big rejection but no straight away we we have the stop hunt movements here at the top we have the my double top pattern so we target the low of theday which is the Asia low yeah basically that's it it's basically things set up almost every day you know always looking for the same stuff yeah I was about to ask because uh you said you're trading mostly 3
hours in the London and 3 hours in the US session so uh if you just don't see any opportunity let's say the volatility is slow and the market just go sideways you just don't trade or you try tomaybe trade a little bit later towards the end of the US session or you just like okay today is not the day I don't see anything I'm just not going to trade no I just I just don't tradebecause the if the opportunity is is not there I don't force it because also what happened to me if I force the trade into the white Windows you see here man most of the times stop loss for shortbecause what happens a lot of times is the market is going to give patterns especially here between London and New York session here are going to be most of the trips and stop on a lot of the times
setups are going to be here perishing offing Pinar wherever to short and as soon as New York starts we have a stop hunt there and then we go short so basically yeah the first I basically the first hourof every session for me is going to be a trap or stop hunt so I I try to to trade mostly on the second or third hour of the of the session yeah okay yeah that that's really valuableinformation and by the way I've noticed that this whole time we are on the 15 minute time frame so are you using 15-minute time frame to do the analysis or do you do some top down analysis going fromlike 4 hour to 1 hour or uh how do you do it yeah for me Simplicity is key I only I only stick to one time frame I already why because I already tried many time frames back test
a lot and also I'm a day trader so I use lower time frames for me 15 minutes it's what works the best gives me the perfect amount of setups I tried already last year five minute five minute setupsit also works yeah but it gives a lot of fixed setups you know so I Tred to with 15 minutes only for me it's enough and if it's working I wi try others okay all right good uh that'sactually one important thing we we didn't mention and that is you said you are a day trader so that means uh ideally you want to close your trades uh before the market R over you don't usually hold thetrades overnight yeah ideally I like to hold the trade to be close within the same day but if the market has to roll over and I need to hold the trade I'll do it but uh yeah try to
Leo shows how extensive backtesting shaped his confidence and helped him refine his strategy. He explains how he records trades, studies probabilities, and separates strategy flaws from personal mistakes.
hold it for like one maximum two days yeah okay perfect now uh off recording while we were talking you said something really interesting and that is I'm just going to come back to the back testing he said youlike to compare trading to uh to sports to football and that is you you you get a practice one kick 1,000 times and that a trading itself is just boring but all the work is done in the backtesting which is like 90% And so you said you would be willing to show some of your back test so um could you could you show show us how do you how do you do the back Tes thingyour yeah yeah of course so basically for me back test was my key factor for my advantage in trading because many people just want to go into trading go big and they forget that trading the work happens behind
the curtains behind the S as you said I mention it hard it's like I like to compare this as FB any sports with the high performance you know for for you to go play on the on the gameyou you have to already train the kick thousands of times so be perfect during the game training the same when you are executing that trade you life already to practice it thousands of times so the execution is Flawlessso yeah what I can show here is a some of the the back test I did basically it's like this yeah put the mo the trades yeah I go back in the I use the replay but and Igo back in time yeah I'm going to do back test previous six months let's go and I I do like this yeah basically the day of the setup pair which is all the same and you see it did
normal people start trading if they come across this mon they stop trading they say okay I need to change the strategy because if they don't have back test they don't know if the strategy works on the long termand when people have AMS like this they just quit the they okay yeah I need to change the strategy I need to tweak this but as you can see after the next next month it's positive the next houralready positive as well you need to stick to the strategy because when you v test it you know that in long term you are sex the probabilities will play out in your H you also have this year youcan see I have a lot of back test this was around 2019 yeah yeah I was back testing I I also choose GBP USD because of the back test as well it was my best performance pair yeah man
this goes yeah and then I also have this this is basically probabilities that can characteristics of a trade that can increase the probability of the T of the TP for example here is the strong opening of sessions letsay a strong opening of the session beginning telling people to short this breakout and I'm looking to long it already this makes probability against me characteristics that um reduce the of the TP basically basic rejections like you seehere is a basic rejection of the high of the day weeks I like to see breaks because when the candle break a line is calling people to buy so is me misleading people and when the market is misleadingpeople you know that it can go on the opposite way I to like to do statistics of losses so I this was some years ago 2021 yeah so I took all the losses and I see the statistics if
it was a loss because was only a loss or it was an error you know and I saw that at that time most of my losses were errors of my parts I was trading pairs I didn't trade Iwas counter trading I was trading outside of trading hours for example this you know so yeah man you you really have to put in the work man you have to put in the work and see if you arefollowing the plan if you are optimizing your stength y because this you have to be trading is an ongoing process people think yeah I know the strategy I'm done no trading even if you master your strategy it's anongoing ongoing work because you have to work every day on your performance to be always on your quick performance and execute poly your strategy every day okay um by the way when you were mentioning you write down if
it was a loss or an error you mean the error like it was your own mistake that you did something okay so you just uh saying if it's like the the mistake on the side of the strategy orif it's like your own problem that you went in with toic of a position traded outside of the normal tra fall are not the strategy it was your fault basically not fault of the strategy because L happen andthere are months and months there are months the strategy will perform less better and that's okay yeah okay perfect yeah I think this really show shows that and I think this is for the first time we've seen somethinglike this in our interview and that there really is a lot of H work behind the results and if you want to be long-term profitable and you know which you are we we mentioned that you you received uh
over $200,000 in payouts uh you really gota you really got to put in the work and I really like this because I think this really promotes you know the the healthy work ethic that the Traders really should have
The interview shifts to Leo's best FTMO account performance and the statistics behind it. They review profit, consistency, drawdown, reward-to-risk, and his preference for selling versus buying.
So yeah thank you for that and uh yeah let's just move on to the Eon Matrix now for a few
minutes our Discord server has recently reached 880,000 members join us as well and stay in touch with the latest ftmo news all right here in the account Matrix and uh Leo you said you think this was your yourbest result so far right on a single ftmo account so this is a $400,000 ftmo account swing and you made a total profit on this one over $100,000 on one account so that's really impressive we can see youbarely went to a loss you pretty much just went only up the consistency score is also very high which with a result like this is uh really unheard of right because when we have traders who make a lotof money on one fdmo account usually it's like a few lucky trades but uh in your case the consist the consistency is there as well so really well done now if you could just scroll down a little bit
let's see the stats Yeah man so maximum de L to to 3% so you were not even close to Breaking that so that's really nice uh now if you could go further down yeah let's see uh the otherstats reward to risk 3.5 super high uh VN rate uh lower than 50 but you know as long as the reward to risk ratio is high you don't really care so and it's all been done on uh guright I see some as well some gbpjpy yeah one or two trads okay cool but uh yeah if I stick to J I'll probably made more money okay now let's just go let's just go to the bottom uhand let's see the the final stats we have there yeah okay so mostly selling uh is that something that you tend to do that you would see that you have better results when selling or when buying or it's
really just the way the market goes and you don't really care if you buy or sell yeah exactly it was I think only this month for me it's random I don't care if the market doing up going downfor me it's okay I'm a did Traer for me what matters is the move of the day basically of the session so yeah I think this was kind of random yeah I don't care if it's by yourself orme it works either ways okay cool okay Leo thanks again and now let's just go to the final part of the interview and talk about what you said what's really important and that is the psychology
Leo discusses the psychological side of trading, including impatience, emotional attachment to trades, and the need to think in sample sizes. He explains how he avoids watching the platform too closely, trusts his backtests, and treats trading like a probabilistic game.
if you enjoy our videos then please subscribe to the ftmo YouTube channel for more videos just like this psychology very important part of trading and something Leo you said you've been working on for uh quite a lot ofyears so you said you you know anything that wrong you did it so you had you know you you've been through everything when it comes to to the mistakes to the errors on the psychology side uh is theresomething that is still like an obstacle to you something that you really that you know you got to be careful about it that you know that you have tendency to make this this error or or that for nowmaybe sometimes uh imp impatience yeah because I only trade one pair and then there are days that I don't have setups which is normal but sometimes I'm impatient so I don't know sometimes I look at other pairs which
is an error and the what I do to fight that is I just close the computer and do stuff okay I think what I'm thinking about it what probably really helps a lot is the fact that you haveall those back tests right because you know that your decision is based on data you know that you're not just randomly trading and if you have this confidence if you have all these back tests then I guess thetrading is really much easier on the psychology yeah exactly when you have like a a data based strategy you know that the probabilities works in your favor you just need to follow your strategy that in a long termthe probabilities will take care of you so you don't need to to care about the result of a trade that's that's a big error of many people they they they marry a trade they think it's it's kind of
contradictory because in trading it it goes against the human nature in trading if you have if you in order to have success you have to detach yourself from the result of a single trip because the result of asingle trade doesn't matter at all for nothing because what matters is like I like to trade in Sample sizes you know because I don't care if this trade is going stop loss or the next one or the nextone I I care only about like 20 three 20 30 sample size threads because that's like the minimum size amount size of Trades you need to to let the probabilities play in your favor you know mhm Okay soso you're saying that a lot of people are trading their strategy and one or two trades don't work out and they like you know already start to panic and they think like something's wrong and they try to change
the strategy yeah exactly basically so there's a quote it goes like this uh your biggest wi losing streak is yet to come so that makes you think though even if they trading your strategy there are going to belosing streaks and people have their ego so big they can't accept a loss they can't accept the risk maybe sometimes because they need the money it's like rent money gas money money to be to pay the bills andthe market doesn't care if you need that money but you have to detach yourself from the money you only have to see like I like to see in percentage not in numbers so one trick is I avoid tobe on metatrader I never go to metatrader I only go there to place the trade and that's it I never go because if you are metat trading you are seeing the money of the trade you are seeing your
account balance and that's the big error because it's see money and trading you have to think it's nothing related to money of course it is but you have to take the money out of the equation so one thingI like to think is uh I like to look at this like the cazin you like to compare it like the cazin you have to think like the ALS do win so the cazin works they have the probalisticedge in their favor for example the relx you think that it's it's 50/50 black and red but it's not be because you have one green yeah and that green gives the edge to the casino and the probability ofthe casino win it's like 51 that that's only green slot that makes them in like longterm stample simple size of roulettes they know they're going to win they don't look at any hand or any play oh my God
I lost money here to that guy lost money there lost money there no the casino lets the prob abilities play in their favor they don't carry staes one hand or two whatever they know they have the Hat thepro the probabilities playing the F in a long term so they just play the strategy basically in the long term they know that the end of every month two months three months whatever they gonna have the money intheir pockets and trading I like to look at that way that's really interesting man I mean this comparison to to the roulette I never thought about it that way but you're right essentially you know everybody's thinking okay it'seither red or black it's 50/50 but exactly the fact that there just this one green in the long term you know it it it gives the it changes the opportunity to the side of the casino that's a very
good point yeah and also when you were mentioning that you don't really like to look into the trading platform you don't want to see the money um is that something that you've been doing for like quite some timeor something that you realized a bit later that it actually helps you if you're not thinking about it that's money yeah so I realized a bit later that the less I look at the screen or the plating orthe trading platform the more money I make so in the even during the live trading as soon I I like to put alarms uh in the high of the day and low of the day when the price goesthere I look at the setup I try to see my setup and as soon as I have my setup I put it buy limit I don't even like to enter Market is the question I like buy and stop
limit you know sorry buy and sell limits so once I put the buy and sell limits that's it I'm done I close the computer I go do run and stuff and I don't even manage the trade basically becausea lot of people they lose because they manage the trade they think okay yeah how can I make more money this how can I uh reduce the risk that's an error because you if you have you don't dothat during the bre test when you are doing your back test you just put the trade you forward to the next candles you have to do the same life trading you can't forward but you can close the computerand do random stuff and don't think about it yeah because yeah go ahead yeah yeah no I was just going to say because if you if you done your back test well you know the probabilities will go any
forever that you just can can trust the trade and let it go either take profit or stop loss yeah I think the managing of the trade usually is derived from emotions right you you open up the trade youknow you you said you set the stop loss and you all of a sudden see the market is going like strongly against you right so what you do you you move the stop loss or you see that it'sgoing really really in your favor so you add another position and like those decisions are you know not informative decision based on back testing they are based on your emotions that you see that the chart is doing somethingand you're reacting to it and essentially in the long term it's probably another right thing to do yeah exactly man that's it basically you have to trade against the human nature another thing I like to think is people
think that the technical analysis can reduce the risk of a trade it cannot people think okay if I have a great analysis if I take a lot of confluences okay I have better probabilities of this particular trade goingmy further and that doesn't happen no one in the world knows what is going to happen on the market NE on the next trade no what so when you are ENT the markets you see people they they thinkthey accept the risk but they don't and I like to see like compare it to slot machines if you see people playing slot machines at the casino you can see in four hours losing the money and they don'tcare they just put the money press the machine and they hope they are going to get a win because they are accepting the risk before playing they have to put the money on the machine they have to put
the coin builds wherever to breast in trading is not like that in trading you only lose the money if if you it if it hits your stop loss so it gives like a false a false perspective that youcan avoid the risk that doesn't happen okay I see okay cool well Leo thanks again for being here today I got to say I really enjoy today's interview I think we've seen a lot of things that haven't been
Leo thanks FTMO and reflects on how the firm supported his growth as a trader. He closes with advice to work hard, stay disciplined, backtest deeply, and never give up.
said here before so I think there's really a lot of value in it and uh Before We Say Goodbye if there's anything you want to say if you want to give a shout out out to anyone if youwant to give any advice to somebody if you want to say anything um now is your time to do it yeah man so I I want to say thank you so much to to you to ftml which isbasically yeah basically ftml was a big side in my life as you know I also work with you guys as a customer Sports and that was a turning point because it helped me conciliate trading and working at thesame time and I always was investing my my first salaries on fdmo I was also investing them on Prop FS challenges like go big or home you know and that that helped me a lot and U yeah it's
it's funny to think like I remember uh when I started training like around 2020 I saw this particular trading on fdmo having an interview with you guys that you made around 100K in a month man I I lookat that like how is that possible I can't imagine doing that man and fast support five years we are here yeah we are here I'm that to guy the guy I married five years ago I'm not that guyso yeah final words I want to say people to work hard if you want to make it in trading you have to work you have to be able to turn every Rock You know to do everything and tospend nights without sleeping to really accept the risk e brck ofam you have to be you know to a set that you are going to lose for a big time and you need to work hard you you need
to be delusional you have to stick to your plan man back test a lot and never give up because it's not easy this is the hardest way to make easy money you know so in the end it playsout and it's worth it 100% And that's
ftmo and there we go Leo provided lots of valuable insights so I I hope you learned something that you can use for your trading as well thank you for being with us and I'll see you again next timegoodbye