The Global Reset No One Sees Coming w/ Chris Sullivan

You've now cut off the number one funding source for the war machine, which is money printing. And then you've also given people a hyper portable, hyper concealable form of digital money that's very hard, if not impossible to confiscate. Well, there goes all your funding for systematic violence and there goes your incentive for systematic and local violence. So what does that mean? Do we now usher ourselves into a world that is much more nonviolent? Every example where supply side money, not Kenzie and supply side, but a supply economy, money that was sovereign was started, it was awesome. And then each group and or persons who started doing that in the last 500 years were always eliminated. Whether it was Hitler or is JFK or is Abraham Lincoln. When you say sovereign money system, could you just explain what that means? What I mean is that the public treasury, which for lack of a better phrase is honest banking system, correct? Yeah. That the consciousness of the public utilizes for the good of the public. Its quantity is not determined by a cabal. And where there's been instances of that money, both the culture and the economy rise in tandem and parabolically. And this is, you know, Time magazine for Hitler calls it the economic miracle from when he was elected to then World War II. That doesn't mean he wasn't a maniac and a psychopath. It just means look at the money. Despite how crazy those folks were and how well it worked. Well, it's going to be another one of those conversations, I can already tell. So where do we do we jump in? I mean first thing you want to hear is the origin of economic cycles, which is. I talk about this a lot. Right. It's Mises crowning achievement, Austrian business cycle theory and how that basically explains everything we've seen since the implementation of the Fed. You could go further back, but if we just look at American history, that's pretty sufficient data set. I think from 1913 to the present we've seen the exact widening boom and bust business cycle that Mises theory predicts once you start printing money. So where should we jump in on that? I think it's a great place to jump in. And just distinguishing that that is the truth. Right. And I would even call it like divine economic theory. Right? Yeah. Like this is part of just natural law and also part of observable fact. The reality of it is in a vacuum, capitalism just has a infinite velocity of money. But when there's intervention centralization then you get his synopsis. And I wouldn't even call it theoretical because at this point we've seen that exported overseas and replicated in all but six or seven countries which do not have that central banking infrastructure. Yeah, yeah, It's. The word theory can be a little misleading. People think, oh, theoretical is like, oh, it's hypothetical, but it's more so that it's a theory and that he deduced it from the axiom of action. So it's like a theorem, you know, and like Euclidean geometry, you have two parallel lines, never touch and other axioms. And then you deduce all your geometric theorems. And that's what Mises basically applied to economics. But to try and like, deep complexify this a little bit, and this one's hard to do, actually. Like, how do you simplify the Austrian business cycle theory? If I could take a stab at it? Go for it. Something like, once you start printing money, money is what we use to obtain goods or services. So when you produce money from nothing, it creates this illusion that there were more goods, services, capital available in the marketplace than there actually is. This causes entrepreneurs to over borrow and try to embark on ventures that they cannot ultimately complete with the actual goods or services, capital available. So that is the bust. Right. So the metaphor I've heard use is like, it's like imagine there being a thousand bricks in an economy to build, you know, 10, 100 brick houses, but there were only actually 800, you know, bricks. There weren't actually a thousand, but the money was printed to where it looked like there was a thousand. So everyone would start these projects and then when they got 80% complete, they would basically run out of bricks and they would all go under. Right. And so that widespread business failure of businesses is a recession. So it's the boom, which is the illusion of more goods and services in the marketplace due to money printing than there actually are. And then there's the bust, when that illusion is basically dispelled by economic reality. And then what do we do in the bust? We print more money, do it all. And then you get a bigger boom and a bigger bust. And that's basically been the defining feature of modern economic history. And, and where the Kenzians come in, which essentially he. He's not really. I don't view him as an economist because he's. He's a product of Malthusian and Fabian socialists and effectively saying, oh, this just authorizes intervention on behalf of slash central authority central banks, which ultimately ends up being a form of asset forfeiture and confiscation. Yeah, the arsonist claiming to be the firefighter. Yeah. And I'm and I want to juxtapose that against the capital destruction theory of capitalism because what you just outlined in a vacuum, without intervention and with sound money. Yeah. There would be an element of destruction because decisions that were poorly made on out misallocations of capital, poor investments, they would be so, so much faster cleansed versus getting a distortion. I mean the one we're in now. Yeah. Is now, you know, 17 years old. Yeah. Where here in the Great Depression period from arguably I look at this from 1913 to 1941. Realistically, they were hunna stealthy with what they did behind closed doors. The rules that were set up that what they, what they promoted to the public were all kind of traps. Whereas now they just it. We're printing money. Yeah. And they have names for it. QE123 Operation Twist. Oh, Repo, Reverse repo. And because, you know, I'm glad we're speaking now because the Fed in last week did 125 billion of repo, essentially saving the banks again because there's no liquidity. I didn't know that actually. I thought during the government shutdown there was no liquidity coming in, but there was. Yeah. Three day in interventions a Friday, Monday and Tuesday of last week total 125 billion. So this, so the modern US economy is just on this life support of purchasing power being stolen by printed money. Yeah. I mean I could make the argument that looking at stats from this era, which we got to 27% unemployment. Right. All right. Back then they didn't have welfare and they didn't have a separate stat called labor participation. Right. Labor participation rate is right. About 61, 62%. So that presupposes nearly 40% of people not working. And then you look at who's on snap because that's been in the headlines and who's on welfare. It's something like 47, 49 million people of 380 million population. So I, I think the moral of the story on that is that they are paying people to be complacent. Like oh, okay, well, social safety net you so we can continue with our agenda and the whole. I honestly think because if you look at the writings from Albert Pike 1871 and then the meetings that occurred between then in 1925, right after the Federal Reserve, the agenda was to, to take and then destroy. And now you have the transhumanist and the technocracy which is then going to implement the culling essentially or at least that's what they want to do. So I, I really Want to draw a really just like transparent parallel here. Americans were largely on their own and it took confiscation of 770 million worth of gold, confiscation of 9,000 banks, confiscation of millions of homes to then get to here, where in last five years they've told you to stay in your home, take a bioweapon. Yeah. Can't eat meat, can't consume free press. So just. And they have two different terms, misinformation and disinformation. When the whole entire time any centralized news is exactly disinformation. So it, it is still not discussed properly where people don't understand. We're going to keep you on the teat so that the grift can occur here. Yeah, it's a lot. Yes, it's a lot to take in. And then I. My question would be because we have. People have been conditioned to comply in this way. Right. There was a reason why you could just pass. Well, you could just declare an international pandemic and tell everyone to stay at home and shut down all the businesses. And everyone listened, more or less. You know, like, of course there are people at the edges doing all kinds of things, but it seems like by and large the population has become docile or compliant. Is that just the conditioning that we are now subject to? Like it's been 100 years or more. It's been over since 1913 to today's 112 years. We've had 112 years of this, these conditioning rituals, compliance rituals to get us to the point of being super docile and compliant during a pandemic. Are we just, are we just in that weak men create hard times thing? I was like, we have to go through it and we got to go through the hard times and that'll make strong people and then they'll resist. I mean, you and I are only here to try and combat the last vistages of that. Right, Right. Well, it's just. Yeah, I've been like, I've made this bet on education and it does seem to help some people, but man, it only helps one in a thousand. Maybe. You know, 999 people just don't want to do the work to study all this stuff. Yeah. And, and that's why we're publishing my personal reading list, so that people can see my journey and how I try to extract and derive wisdom and then personal beliefs and practices based on the work, these great works. But you have to want to know, like whether you can call it awakening or truth or movement or Whatever it is, you have to want to know fact from fiction. If you don't, you are a sheep. Yeah. There's no other way to put it. And then you have to do the work. Right. Because with the knowledge comes responsibility. I, I can't. You know me really well for 10 years now, I can't help but always have that hedging mentality and prepping mentality. Yeah. That the moment I learned something new, you have the, you know, you're aware that there's this Hegelian dialectic problem, reaction, solution. Okay, well, what's my solution? Because I don't want to just talk about problems to react to this new information. Let's go back to the reading list you just brought up, because this one. Sure. This is very important, I think, because you're. The reading list. You were recommended by a professor in college, I think. So the, the large body of it. There's some I've added, like, for example, Dr. Joe Dispenza's becoming Supernatural. I added that. Okay. Right. Because essentially, to me, there's, there's no distinction between a truth awakening from a spiritual awakening. They're. They're. They're the same thing. They're correlated and we all want to resonate higher. We are all one consciousness, even the super consciousness. So as, as the historical, monetary, philosophical became clearer for me then you have. You. You can only naturally then look towards the spiritual and be. And because I'm a bitcoiner, bitcoin is a higher consciousness asset. And so I wanted to make sure people had. Yeah, there are books from hundreds of years. I mean, John Lock that I'm recommending is 1690. That's what I was going to say is because it was. It's a classical. I correct me where I'm wrong. It's like a classical libertarian or classical philosophy or Western canonical sort of collection of books. Right. That you're. It's a lot of the books that form the grammar of Western civilization are basically in this reading list. Right. And so it's like, if people want to, like, wake up to the illusion of, of modernity is like, well, you can actually find all the answers in the past because these, these problems have been wrestled with. Right. These are correct. What the founding fathers read, what they wrote, et cetera, et cetera. So. And that's the genesis of it. The genesis specifically in. In historical classical terms is what did the forefathers read. Yeah. To get to the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and Constitution. Right. And that's 75% of that list is exactly that. Got it. Which is who? Like Kato, Kant. Hobbs. Hobbs, yeah, yeah. Descartes. In. In part, that was a little bit later, but. But John Lock, Adam Smith were hugely influential to them. And then you get to the Austrians, you know, in, you know, early night, and they. Their era was through really the late 50s, I believe. I think people like this is required reading. You need to, you need to read Misys and you need to read Road to Serfdom. And they're like, wait a minute, we're in serfdom? Yeah. And I don't know which. For me, the mind enslavement and being lied to is worse than if it were physical. Why is that? Because it's easy to understand what your mandate is when it is, I'm clearing X amount of acreage, I'm planting X amount of trees for production, I'm clearing this amount of cotton, I'm tilling this many potatoes. When it's visible, explicit, and you have. There's hours that. That can be done. But when you're oppressed by a infrastructure, a super infrastructure that was created under evil, implemented through evil, that goes against all laws of nature, then your, your mind and your soul become imprisoned versus your physical body. And you can't just flip that off. Yeah. And so that. This is where, I mean, this is something we often revisit on the show. Like the corruption of money, like, leads to the corruption of man. Right. It's hard to say, like which way. The arrow of causality is that it was kind of in a feedback relationship. But suffice it to say, the example that I often use is this example of the winemaker, right. That he sells his wine for $20 a bottle. The central bank just doubled the money supply. What's he going to do? Right. He either has to, if he's an honest guy, he just doubles the price of his wine. If he's dishonest, he starts watering down the wine or using cheaper ingredients. And his wife forgot his third option now, but basically inflation is inducing you. Oh, he could just eat the loss, basically. Right. Or go out of business so far. Yeah, or go out of business. And the other thing is, like in that inflationary world, the producers of wine in this parable actually are incentivized not to increase their prices and to do the dishonest thing to water it down. Because. Because if you increase your prices, you're sending a signal to your customers to go and check out your competition. Right. You're giving them an incentive to go and look elsewhere for wine and so your incentive as a producer actually is to try to like, oh my, My input cost just went up. I need to lower the cost of my inputs to keep my price the same so I don't drive my customers elsewhere. And that is like this weird, you know, you're forcing people to weigh their financial integrity against their moral integrity in their. In whatever productive activity they're engaged in. And so the money printing, like, actually dissolves social cohesion. Yes, 100. It manifests itself and possibly psychological cohesion. Because you're at war with yourself. Yeah. And that's why there's such egregious levels of depression. Like, let's start present day. The grift on the system because of high time preference. And exact. The high time preference exists because of what you just mentioned. And the grift. Look at, look at, just start with us politicians, it's obviously worse in, in other countries, but they are openly making insider trades. They are open, openly sending taxpayer money through war zones for money laundering. They are creating non for profits to do all kinds of really bad stuff, which is one of the reasons the Epstein stuff does not come out. And I could give dozens, maybe even hundreds more examples, but it's all out. This is what we're conscious of. These are known knowns and yet they still get to do them. Right. So that paralyzation of the mind, the absence from natural law and the removal from spirit almost conditions and forces people to behave in the way you just mentioned. Yeah. Okay, so I'm back to the conditioning thing, as you're saying. Because if they're doing these things in broad daylight, that's only because the population doesn't understand what's going on. Right. It's the same thing with the money printing. It's like, oh, we're going to print $8 trillion and everyone's like, applauding. Like, the people applauding are the ones getting victimized by the thing that's. Trump sent me a $3,000 check. Like, yeah, well, he debased your purchasing power by like $46,000. So where's the other $43,000? How do we. I mean, education is like one thing to try to help, but, like, what else can we do? Or does bitcoin just have to like, play out and contribute to a reawakening of, again, things we've known for hundreds of years, but we just conditioned ourselves to forget? I do think, and I don't want to be too negative on humanity now, but I can't find another period in time where people were more compliant with things that were abjectly against their best interest. In both a health and wealth context. Yes. Whether it's, you know, fiat food, which is part of the whole central banking plan and we can go down that vector and then just allowing a legal construct to be built up around them. That's, that's just constantly carved out at their rights that we, as Westerners argue, are divine right. These rights are endowed by your creator. Yes. And yet none of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution's been trampled. That it's, it's just right in our face. Here's our base, here's a blend of, let's call it western values. Yeah. That set up the building of the entire planet. Yeah. Like bar none, the building of the entire planet. And the beacon of freedom where you only had autocracy or, or worse before that. 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First they need to understand what we're discussing like our, we, we, we're going to go through the step by step of the what was the Great Depression? Why was it great? How did it go global? What was the mandates behind the bad actors and how was that correlate to the so called GFC of 2008 and then the current, I would argue depression that we've been in since 2020. Because as of the second quarter you literally lost tens of thousands of businesses in the United States, thousands of banking and financial institutions and then globally have lost roughly 1/3 of GDP that's not been grown back. Wow. So you know I, I think the main you have to start with the base of knowledge to then be inspired to then go defend your rights. Because if you don't know why and what you're defending. Right. You know, how are you going to have strength? Sure. And that's why you keep getting all right, your fiat food, here's your blue light device and people need to know what that does. And then here's your serotonin depletion. You know, all of that is to placate same with the entire invention of the social safety net. Alleged social safety net came after the largest confiscatory practice by law ever in history. Oh, yeah, yeah. FDR. Wait, what? He did a bank holiday. 9,000 banks didn't open back up billions and billions of rich people's money at that time just poof and, and seized. And we're see, and then we're seizing gold. Yeah. Oh, but we're going to give you $20.67. And then a few weeks later we're going to mark it up to 35. Yeah. Wait, what market forces allow you to do that? And then it's like, okay, are we a monarchy or what? What is going on here? And then just unfortunately, you know, the resistance at that time was pulverized under or malnourished. Excuse me. And then they bring in, when there starts to be a little awareness of this, then they come in with their war game. Because why? What's the primary three reasons they go to war? The first is so that you don't blame them for the financial calamity that they've engineered. They can blame it on war. The second is, is because they're sick, maniacal people who want to do blood sacrifice, libel, et cetera, to their demonic realm. And then third, their natural resisters will always be. Why is it always 18 to 25 year old boys go on the front lines. You could research this war's Iraq. It's a great book to look at this. You research who was put up in the front of Normandy, who went to Vietnam, et cetera. They are going to purposely sacrifice the youth for two reasons. They're the ones physically capable of resisting them by force and then they are the natural inherited inheritors to the assets of their parents. So it literally kills three birds with one stone. Diversion, slaughter and asset confiscation. And that's why the phrase there's no wars but bankers wars. Waterloo, which we've discussed before, was an engineered battle to destroy the remaining French patriots. He was brought back as a false flag from Corsica. Right. Napoleon. Yes. And then British army's all ready to slaughter them all. Everything was strategic. And Napoleon and them, they were all, you know, bloodlust and did not focus on strategy as Napoleon once had done. And then there were no more patriots left. So. And that's when Nathaniel Rothschild took over the central bank because they falsely reported the results of that battle. That's right. And so I know that was a long winded way of saying you have to know the hand you're dealt. Yeah. To then implement the health and wealth practices on yourself that you can then profess to others that will help lift us all up from the bottom up. No, that's good, good framing. So then I guess if we just start in America's Great Depression, like the common narrative is that gold caused the Great Depression, right. That somehow the money wasn't printable enough for elastic enough or. I don't, the Keynesian like perspective is so insane. I don't even, I don't even know where to begin, frankly. But what, so what is their story about what caused America's Great Depression was the Keynesian narrative and then what actually happened? Yeah, so the, the Keynesians, you're right, they, they try to sell that. Right. And then they also with that they sell well because of that you couldn't get fast and swift government intervention. And the, the so called logical fallacy is that they think that disruptions in aggregate supply and demand are aberrations, which they're not. And so what? And then I, I also say back to them, well, if, if they could, if, if it was really like gold tethered, how the hell did 90% of stock market get on margin? Because they were obviously creating money then. Right, but what it was 30 million families that invested at the time of 120 million. So it was a lot of the American population that was invested in the stock market. I would argue and give evidence towards induced to speculate in the stock market. And various bank and bank intermediaries and trusts were giving people it's sometimes 100% finance margin loans or 10% down. So okay, Mr. Ken Keynes, how is their money supply tethered to ounces of gold when those brokerage houses can just do that. Right. And they have no response to it. Right. And this is all in the run up to 1929. Correct. Peak in stock market before the crash. So then again, Federal Reserve 1913, then all this money printing rehabothecation credit expansion occurs from 1913-19. Right. Beginning with the Bolshevik Revolution in World War I. Right. The moment that signed in 1913. And remember they had just done the panic of 1907 to induce the participation. This, we went over this the last time we spoke and then poof, 12 months later the whole world's at war. Wait a minute, how could the whole world be at war? And then you have to. We're not here to relitigate that. World War I is one year after the Fed, Right? Yeah. And then, then the surprise, surprise, the Bolshevik Revolution. Because I'm not calling it a Russian revolution, it was not a Russian revolution. There were almost no Russians that were part of the Bolsheviks. And the reality that Occurred There was the three pronged process, murder and sacrifice and bloodshed. A disruption of ability to have their agenda combated against and then asset for sure, confiscation and control. And if you, you know, I heavily. One of the books in that reading list is Schultz and Eason. I recommend all of Schultz and Eason's book like Gulag Archipelago is not on there because it's not core to understanding the whole framework of central banking and the enemy we're facing. But I definitely recommend people read it because that story of the white hats fighting and they were all slaughtered. So the entirety of the Russian army slaughtered, the entirety of the czar's family slaughtered. And then what did they go after next? The food production. And that's, that's to bring it back to the Great Depression to again discuss the keen side, which is patently false. My. I'll give a real world family representation of this. My Irish grandmother who was born and went through the Great Depression. She's still alive, by the way. 92. She has 19 great grandchildren. Freaking awesome. Her name's Joan. They didn't know she was in central Connecticut on a dairy farm because back then 27 to 35% of Americans had subsistence or larger farms. They had a dairy farm. So what happened to them? Not much because they didn't go hungry. Now you bring forward from that ERA TO Now, 1 or 2% of Americans have subsistence farms or commercial farms. And the central banking takeover and forfeiture of all of that wealth of the United States began occurring in the crash of 29, bankrupting banks that held deposits by farms. There's even famous cases in the Midwest where they would threaten hanging to the bankers that were coming in on, on foreclosures if they we didn't let the public bid on them because they wanted to keep the community together. Yeah, these are, these are great cases to review, but I think that the takeaway for people from that diatribe that I just had, forgive me, is that all of it is a construct, all of it is an agenda, and it's asset or strip mining everything from your mind, body and soul, including any monetary or physical assets. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So then the mainstream Keynesian narrative, that. And again, I'm not exactly sure on what this is, but something like because we were on a gold standard, we could not print money fast enough. That's why the Depression. I don't know, is that given as a cause for the Depression or is this given for a reason why we could not recover from the Depression? That's how they sold all of the subsequent money printing and social programs from fdr. Yeah. So I think those narratives were not real time. Yeah. Is there a cause given by the Keynesian perspective? No, no, no cause. They just say, oh this disruption, we need to intervene and we know better because they're, they're the never let a good crisis go. Yeah. So. All right, so there's not a good reason giving given from the Keynesian perspective. I guess we could fact check that a bit. I'm sure they had to have given some reason. Right? There has to be some. And surely there's some thought about why the Great Depression began. Even Bernanke admits that the Kenzians were wrong. Yeah. And, and you, you can put that video clip where you. It was us, we're sorry. Yeah. Okay. Plus years later the, the equivalent amount of dollar loss and business loss is almost uncountable, but probably in the 20 trillion range in today's dollars. Yeah. And are you going to repay that? So that sounds like Ben, you need to lop off 20 trillion of the 38 trillion Americans supposedly owe to a private central banking system. Yeah. So kind of regardless of how the Kenzie's use poli sci and lies to create a narrative around the occurrences, the reality of it is, is that the public was given access to free money and then induced to participate in opaque markets. What's happening now? Right, You've got fractional shares of stocks. You, you're starting to tokenize all kinds of stuff. People don't even understand blockchain yet. And you're tokenizing, which tokenizing so called real world assets is still centralization. It's just fractionalizing it so they can dump it on you essentially. Yeah. And so those are really big parallels to what's happening now because your barber, the shoe salesman, all those people were induced to speculate in the stock market because of free money. If it wasn't free, there would have been no need for margin calls. And what the Kenzie's never argue for is savings. And the Austrians always argue for savings. Low time preference lowers the possible credit contagion. Just in very nature, of course. No, that's a great point to double click on too is just the notion of, of real economic savings. Typically when people hear that word they think oh, money in a bank account. And that's typically how we refer to it. But what it actually is is what that money represents. Right. Which is goods, capital that have been produced but not yet consumed. Right. So it's the capital stock. Right. That's the actual savings. Correct. Of course, that underpins the economy. Right. Like, do you like your house and your car and the food in your refrigerator and the clothes on your back? Like that is the capital stock. The Keynesian perspective that, oh, we don't need savings, we'll just borrow everything into existence is like, what are you talking about? It doesn't make any sense. Right. Like it's fundamentally flawed. And that's why many, many authors of the books that I'm recommending, they call it alchemy. Yeah. It is really from nothing. The alchemy of finance. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so what actually happens then? The Federal Reserve is founded 1913. World War I starts 1914, as you said. What was this run up to 1929. Like what was going on? You mentioned, I think a lot of lending, borrowing, leverage. So they come back from World War I and naturally, like Americans, historically, maybe not so much now, but historically were ultra resilient, ultra hopeful. And okay, the men come back from war, we're going to have an economic boom, just in demand, obviously. So what was met in 1921, because there was still a recession during that period that we were getting pulled out of, they just started flooding the entirety of America with credit. And there was pretty much, no, I would call it, I'm not for regulation because markets self regulate if operating in. According to private property. Correct. Versus hey, we're, we're just gonna let everybody have fun. And they, and then they name, they named it, they branded. Oh, the Roaring Twenties. That's right. You know, so how. You can't really blame, you know, your average person or, or middle, upper middle class person for going, oh, America, Yeah, we just won the World War I. America's kicking ass. We're building everything. Trains, planes, automobiles, textiles, agriculture. Nobody else is even functioning but America. So I'm going to put everything I have in the stock market. These are American companies and back then you got dividends. It's a, it's a hype cycle. Right. Yeah. And I, you know, I could get sucked into that hype because that's, that's a great picture to paint. And it's almost your patriotic duty to buy General Electric and Standard Oil. Right. So you can't blame those people for not knowing what, what occurs in these easy money booms. Yeah. And nothing tangible was, was made during that time. Right. So none of the wealth stayed within the common man. It was all extrapolated away. And that's really the most destructive thing, is that when they're harming people who are otherwise productive removing the ability to create savings and removing then the ability to build and hold wealth. Then you get to that, hey, well now I'm sad, I'm depressed. Oh, now we're going to remove all the minerals and nutrients from the food. Oh, and now we're going to convert your medical system to allopathic medicine and just drug you to death. You know, solving for random symptoms that we're trying to control. And I want to the focus is on the founding of the Federal Reserve and the Great Depression because that was really all things that created the environment we're in now. Bitcoin custody is evolving. Onramp is pioneering a new model, Multi institution custody which eliminates single points of failure and adds fault tolerance to your setup. 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It's like it went on for almost a decade, and it got to the point where people were literally saying, oh, I think the stock market is just literally going to stay up forever. Like, it's never going to go down. It's just permanently high. Like, it just gives you an example of, like, how short people's time scales are. You know, like you're caught up in a hype, which is a long hype cycle. Nine years. Like, that's a lot. But by the end of nine years, you've taken. I love Schopenhauer's quote that every man takes the limits of his field of vision for the limits of the world or the limits of reality. And, like, that's basically what's happened. Like, oh, all I've seen is bull market for nine years straight. I'm gonna just extrapolate and say, oh, it's bull market forever. And then, sure enough. Right. Infamous last words. Yeah. Right before the stock market went off a cliff. So what. What happened? Like, what? Just the leverage. So there's a lot of paper wealth being created, but not a lot of real wealth. And then that got exposed. Yeah. And essentially, just as to your point, on the kind of signaling. Right. The stock market signals, more most importantly, psychology. Yes. Secondary effect, liquidity. So when the stock market tanks, demand's going to go down. Yeah. So it's a vicious cycle. And you can kind of see, like, the. Tina, there is no alternative. And they prop it up. Yeah. And. And the point that I think we'll get to at the end is that they prop it up until they don't want to. Yeah. And that's where we have to look out. But mechanically, this is the nefarious part. So they. The. You know how the margin calls occurred? No. On a Saturday, via telegram. Oh, wow. Yeah. So wait a minute. Robert, you margin call me and say, oh, Chris, you. I need $15,000 to cover your GE margin. Well, Robert, it's Saturday. How the am I gonna get it to you? You have one day. Well, banks don't. There weren't wires then, were there? Right. So that's clue number one on the engineering side. And because so much of the stock market was borrowed. Right. And then the insiders of the cabal, basically, or as Brett Weinstein calls them, the Goliath. Right. They all already extracted and got out. They know that. Okay. We're not buying until the mechanics of this process are finished. And that's why it was a Friday, a Monday, and, and then finally Black Tuesday. And that, that effectively now has been replicated October 10th in the digital asset market. Right. Where the largest leverage ever in the space was wiped out in roughly five minutes. This is October 10, 2025. Correct. What, so what happened there? What is that? So, and how is that relevant to the story here? Because it's relevant because it's basically both a byproduct of false belief, a byproduct of the fiat system, and then a misdirected allocation of capital. Right. So what? First leverage. I mean, I'm not a debt guy. I think usury and leverage should be illegal. It used to be in Christianity, in some places, Islam still bans it. And I think that when you pair that with a central banking command system, you just can't have anything good. So I don't like leverage. Maybe for institutions or capital efficiency, you can argue there can be facilities. But giving someone 100 times, which, so it was nine times in 1929 and now you're getting 100. Yeah. What, what's going to go well from that? 100 times the buying power of the assets you actually have. So, and just so for reference, like you only need the price to move against you, I guess in 100 to 1. Like 1%. Yeah. And then wipe you out and then you're blasted. Right. And so here what's distinguished between I think Bitcoin and then digital assets that are on chain is that you actually can see both the central limit order books plain and clear. Where most people can't see NASDAQ order book depth or S P order book down. I, I can because I run hedge funds, but that's not something that's just poof. It's on your Binance site or on your Coinbase and you can, you can actually see it real time. And so there was a cascade of that occurred then that resulted in the largest wipeout of leverage ever. I look at straight up as, as a version, as an asset confiscation. The cause doesn't really matter because it's an amalgamation of all things. But the effect was, hey, over 200. They cited 19 billion, but by our math it's 250, 260 billion gone in one day in two to five minutes. Two to five minutes as these. And who were the counterparties that, that suffered this loss? So it was essentially all the exchanges that offer effectively everybody because the price went down wherever there was price signaling, including the ETFs. But what is in interesting and maybe should be further investigated is that it occurred after the stock market closed. Why is that interesting? Well, because of the various ETFs on Bitcoin and other digital assets, there's naturally going to be equity market makers market making for them, which create bids and offers in an order book that thicken it up, typically one to two standard deviations away from bid ask on the spread so they're not there to participate in this event. And then the way the, the exchanges are structured now versus a telegram is it's auto liquidation. And then what occurs? Then stops get hit and you create this gnarly feedback loop of getting blown out. And I think Adam famously got to like a penny. There were 60, 70 point candles on everything from like chain link uniswap. There was all kinds of humongous single day candles on what I would call top 100 of crypto. I don't even pay attention to really anything outside the top 30 or 40. But it, it did in the exact same thing to digital asset prices as occurred in October of 1929. Wow. So it was a full, full scope liquidation without any like specific pinprick they cite. Oh, Trump tweeted tariffs on China. Yeah, well, people aren't selling Bitcoin because of that, are they? Of course. Yeah. No, actually you should buy Bitcoin because of that. Yeah, no, that's one of them. I have that frustration a lot when people are constantly trying to map the news cycle onto market movements. I actually think it's just the tail wagging the dog. Right. It's like markets are what drive the news cycle actually, not vice versa. And that's a 0.964 R squared. Yeah, we've tested. We, we had a group that was like claiming they had alpha that. Oh, by getting this API from this news source 20 seconds before we're going to have edge. And my partner Heim, he did so many. He did regression analysis showed the data and locks. It was like, no, first off, it's not how it works, but then you can prove it empirically is my point. Yeah, news does not move markets. It never does. I don't care who's listening that thinks I'm incorrect. Go do an empirical study yourself. Yeah, I think, I mean there's exceptions every rule, but in general, definitely seems, especially in Bitcoin, seems like supply and demand are the primary drivers. But okay, so is that then evidence, as you said, occurred after the stock market had closed. Is this also Evidence of engineering this. Okay, and who, like in your estimation, who does that serve is this? The cui bono part's difficult. You know, we're still just a few weeks later. I don't have all the analysis and hard data I would like, but I can tell by the price action if it's organic or not. How is that? How do you. So this is going to get into the spiritual side. Okay. Price, just like your cells, your muscles, etc. Everything expands and contracts conforming to sacred. Geometry and Fibonacci sequence. Yes. Yeah. And the flower of life is a great visual to look at for the pattern that's in it. When you get patterns that are unnatural, it doesn't mean there's anything nefarious. It just means there's externalities that are influencing. Right. The demand and supply. Right. But naturally you, if someone's going to give you XYZ amount of leverage, that's obviously to harm you and to benefit them. So you have that, then you have the, the time. Okay, wait a minute. It's just coincidence that the big market makers on the BlackRock ETF etc are not going to be playing then because they're not on all the centralized digital asset exchanges. And then unlike on stock exchanges which people would don't have access to the full order books, there are stops posted or buy limits because I always have buy limits on Bitcoin because you never know where it could collide. And that day I actually got some really nice executions for my personal stack and for the hedge funds. But by our calculation it could have fallen a lot further based on the liquidation. So buyers obviously did come in and right off that wick it did rally all the way to 114 from a 102 kind of average low across all the centralized exchanges. But to answer your question more specifically, I think the timing is sus the fact that makers disappeared and they're not required to be there in crypto, they are required in equities. That's a payment for order flow situation. There's none of that that occurs in crypto. So in some sense, okay, this is a more natural and free market. But I think the who benefits? This is me speculating. I don't have evidence to this. It's, it's the old weak hands giving over to strong hands. And as far as XBTC assets, those have been in secular bear market since 2022. There's been no alts season yet in the, you know, whatever, hundreds of alts. There's maybe a few dozen that might be worth investing in. And those seem to be the ones that have rallied after that event. Do you expect to see more of these engineered liquidations crazes? They're going to occur probably ad nauseam at, at the whim of whomever. Okay. I mean I, I, I, you know this because you were there too. I warned about tethering a commodity that is as special as Bitcoin to anything CEFI related central centralized finance. And then even worse, what a fiat wrapper. Right. Because we all know and have discussed what has occurred with gold. And even the most egregious probably ever is silver. Right? Yeah. Because you have in 1400% increase in demand, the price goes down 60. You know, you have just absence of the maths working on silver. Well, obviously some version of that's going to occur on Bitcoin. And so just to be clear, like you're, these are not market forces because they are in, they're being, they're forces coming from institutions that are not technically acting in accordance with the rules of the market. Private property. Right. This has to do with either. Well, I guess actually faking information is not so much a thing, but it's like government interference money printing. Any of these regulatory schemes, to the extent they drive this activity, that is, that's what pushes out outside of the Fibonacci bands. You're talking about the price. What it does, then it looks a counterparty to offer 100 times leverage. If all of those, those things were not as distorted and out of whack and unnatural, that would never occur. So at a minimum you could draw parallels between those two because they are. Correlated and is the counterparty that's offering 100x leverage. I mean art. Isn't a lot of that driven by fiat as well? It's like, oh, we have this, we. Have this fiat credit facility that allows you to borrow and. Yeah, and it pays nothing. So it's like we have to move out on the risk curve and lend this to someone. So why not at the end of that is the 100 to 1. Right. And okay, we get our trading fees in commissions and, and then if we liquidate them we get a spread like so they don't really care up or down. Right. And I'm not, I'm not implying that the exchanges or credit facilities themselves are specifically nefarious, but we just showed how they are a byproduct of all of the fiat side. Yeah. All out of whack. So they're just essentially following their incentives which there's nothing wrong with that but this is another perspective on how central banking, slash money printing turns the entire real economy that produces real goods and services into this highly financialized casino. Yeah, because what. And this is the super high time preference thing, okay, what if, if situations were not so dire, what would possess somebody who has 10,000 bucks and instead of just buying bitcoin, pulling it off to their own cold storage and being their own bank and their own sovereign, they got. Well, that's fine and nice, but I got to get ahead. And oh, XYZ exchange gives me 101. I believe in bitcoin and I'm going to go do the leverage. So maybe my 10 can be a hundred and then I'll buy a whole coin. You know, like that's the primitive yet kind explanation for who participates in that. Because again, it is a by product of dire straits on the macroeconomic scale. Yeah, it's the same way, you know, depository banks used to just offer yield on your gold deposits to get the gold in their vaults. And then when thing, you know, hits the fans like, oh, we just suspended redemption. So your gold that's in our vault stays in our vaults. And so it's like, it's that same scheme where you're using the allurement of yield or whatever, quick payoff, right. To get people to do things that are adverse to their interests. And this is permeating and what a. Government should be doing is regulating that. Right. It's like, oh, if you've actually deceived people out of their money, you know, if, if it's not very clear in the contract someone took, you know, again, I don't know, should leverage be legal? I don't know if it's between a willing buyer and seller. No, I'm not say, I, I think it, it protects people, but I don't. It's not for us to decide. That's for the market. Yeah, but the point being, when the terms of those contracts are violated or someone's stuff is stolen, that's when you want legal intervention. Right. It's like, hey, we need to rectify this wrong. But instead we've somehow now weaponized the legal system to support the financial system that's turning the whole thing into a casino and fleecing everyone. It's, it's. And it's all of that like tied together by money printing basically. And think about the iterations, right? How many you can place derivatives of sports betting. And I played sports my whole life. I know you're an athlete too. You get on some of these platforms and they're, oh, bet $100 that the second down is 4 yards. Like, wait a minute, there's so much, so many derivatives of just the Giants beat the Bears, you know. Yeah, yeah. And that again, that grift, that separation from natural law and the externalities that influence that are really dark. Yeah. And it is you. I again, don't blame the user of it because they're just trying to hit lottery tickets because they can't get ahead. And they're like, I know I can afford to put 50 bucks on whether Texas beats Alabama in the fourth quarter, but you know, the payout might only get them four or five hundred bucks, but that might cover their newly inflated power bill. Right, right. Because the data centers are being subsidized by the taxpayer. So it's don't hate the player, hate the game, basically. Yeah. And the game, so long as there is central planners and central banks specifically, the game is going to get farther and farther away from first principles. Yeah. Almost. Because it has to. Yeah. I think that's Mises business cycle theorem right there. Right. It's like this. It has to get further and further away from the truth. Like, this is why these things are so. It is gets metaphysical really quick because the more you print money, the more you're divorcing everyone, every market actor, every entrepreneur, like their mind is divorced from the truth. Right. As you expand that money supply because you've created the illusion that there's more goods and services available than there actually are, as we said earlier. And eventually that has to be reconciled. Right. That delta between the illusion and reality has to be rectified. Right. And so how could this not. Like what is the saying, like, the further a society drifts from truth, the more it hates those who speak it. And so like it's like the lie of debt based money, which is an oxymoron in and of itself. Right. If money is the final extinguisher of debt, how can money be debt based? That doesn't make any sense. It's, it's just, it's up, is down. Right. Like literally makes no sense. Somehow that fundamental lie leads to all of this motivation for people to gamble and speculate and take giant risk and do anything to, you know, outpace inflation. And it's like it's destroying ever destroying us from the inside out, emotionally, psychologically, spiritually, all the things. And when you get to that, that point where either they're ready to pull the plug or it's exhausted, then the central banks get again, a plethora of fine options for them. All right, so Kenzians, how, How are you Wrong again. You profess intervention. Well, the Fed didn't do anything in 1929, did they? They let everything blow up, right. So they could have the permanent excuse to intervene for the next 100 years. So literally from. And then Wait guys. So you said, Chris, in 1871 we're going to do three world wars, right? Oh, so okay, we get in, then we do World War I and then we do the roaring twenties and then we let everything nuke 9000 banks billion trillions in today's dollars from people and then we're going to make the public so destitute we're going to go to war again. Wait, what? Germany again? Wait, that's not likely. Come on. Same. So it just shows you that here, like I'll keep drawing distinctions to now we've had 2,000. We've had a few times. Let me count them from 08 to now. There was 2012. We're about. That was about to happen again the 16th of August. That was about to happen again. Then December 18th into August 19th because the entire system was basically bankrupt in August of 19. Then you had March 23rd, 2020. And then you had kind of a cyclical bear also plus recession in 2022 that then got that because of inflation and because they weren't ready to crash everything, they tightened, which then the effects of that tightening is now manifesting in huge subprime auto bankruptcies in the last few weeks, tricolor being one. And then another feature of this fraud which is occurring at the private credit level. So, so much so that banks took cya, are suing their own clients who they underwrote and gave money to for fraud. Wait, Wells Fargo, the client was already on your platform, right. You already had all the kyc. Okay. And then they borrowed the money and kept it where. And then you didn't keep. It's just hilarious. And, and so that's part of that capital destruction that they. Yeah, that's a result of raising rates. Now you have a fiscal cliff on the corporate bond side because everything needs, it's 2.2.6 trillion ish. That needs to be refinanced next year. Well, we're 350 to 450 basis points higher than when that debt was issued. And we're getting up to that point where okay, they've, they've stopped it from occurring 4, 5, 6 times because they weren't ready. Then out of sheer necessity slash agenda, they raised rates knowing Full well what is it going to do then? Kept them going for longer. We're now seeing the bankruptcies, foreclosures. You've got revolving credit card north of a trillion. I don't know the exact number. Student loans 1.2 trillion. I think credit card is 1.4 trillion. And then here's an aside. Sorry for the diatribe but I can't help myself. What is the average interest rate on a credit card? 26, 27%. Well if, if sofr and t bills are four where the mother F are they getting that rate? Yeah, right. And then look throughout history the delta right now on 30 year mortgages over the 30 year bonds, the widest it's ever been. So we're, we're, we're so far from reality in that regard it's insane. And people are just willingly paying my you're in I's platinum cards. It's, it's 27% even though we're 850 credit score. Show me the market rate for that. And then they create asset backed securities on this and other derivatives, yada yada. Okay, make it back to the point. Sorry. So we're getting the, the effect of the rise in rates real time and we're running up on which we have evidence on either they're going to do another big print as, as our friend Larry says in his great book call it about 13 trillion or they're going to do what they did here which is we don't buy treasury bonds, we didn't inject liquidity. We were getting ready to take you all down, make you so depressed that you would be willing to fight. So 2029 repeat of 1929. I think knowing their own white papers it would be hilarious. Not hilarious, but sad if they do 100 years later and that, that's when they kick it off. Because Agenda 2030 is a very real thing that people can read. Sure. So you know what we may see is a crack up engineered. Yeah, right. That they kick off now. What do we hear from trump? Oh stemmies, $2,000 which is basically just hey, I'm gonna rob you and give it to me. Yeah. No net new. It's just net loss. No that and that's the point. Like again there's a lot coming at people right now and like I'm always trying to put my mind in the position of like the beginner listening to this stuff and it's so overwhelming the jargon and this and that. But like what do we, I mean correct me where I'm wrong here. But what we are essentially saying is that the central banking apparatus rewards non productive activities. Right. Like whether you're a money printer or you're the first recipient of that new money, or you're one of these financial engineers or casino operators or speculators. Like you're doing things that don't create any goods or services in the real economy. No real tangible to make money. Right. So now we've divorced money making from being productive. Exactly. And we're paying people to be non productive. And actually wealth occurs. Yes. Is it any surprise that the whole world starts to become more characterized by people that are non productive and or wealth destructive when we're paying them to do that via this institution? Like, and that is the core problem period in the world. Like as far as, I mean what we could get into the spiritual. But like from a pragmatic economic standpoint, there are no other problems. There is no other. That is the root problem. That is the only solved. It's the meta problem. Like how many problems are downstream from that is another conversation. But you mentioned fiat food, fiat medicine, fake news, propaganda, endless war. Like it's all, it all flows from that corrupt source. And so it is that. I mean I think it is that simple. It's like reward people for being productive, don't reward people for being non productive or wealth destructive. Correct. The end. And capitalism rewards people for being productive and punishes people for being unproductive. Yes, exactly. And I, I. Your interviews with Dr. Jack, Uncle Jack were awesome. I'll try and use his thing. Okay. What are we talking about, Robert? Well, what we're talking about is if 1% has 90 of the assets, we have to examine how that occurred. All right, let me give you something simple to understand. Just, just like Uncle Jack, the s and P CPI adjusted would result in a $240 an hour minimum wage. Excuse me, I said that backwards. Minimum wage adjusted for S P growth since what? Like the past 50 years or something? I do not have the chart in front of me. I'm sure we can. You know, AI complexity. Mirrors a chart. It's the first chart on the WTF Happened 1971 website. Right. It shows real wages and productivity diverge in 1971. Right. Even though productivity is going up because we still have some capitalism. Like the people that are most economically vulnerable, those on minimum wage are getting robbed basically in that scheme. Right. And then getting placated to allow that theft to permeate and occur. Yeah. At the discretion of the central planners. Yes. Give them just Enough crumbs from the table to keep them. Yes, it's fucking terrible. Again, like, what are Bernanke's actual words regarding? This is a quote regarding the Great Depression. You're right. We did it. We're very sorry. Okay. Did you put people, did you kill people? Right. People were starving in the Great Depression. You had, what was it? Hoover's tent camp in Central Park. Right. And then the. Of course, this is again part of their agenda. They blamed Hoover as if it was his fault for engineering all of this. And then always a fall guy. You got to have your patsy. Yeah. And then they set up fdr who was. Wait a minute, was fdr landed gentry and super wealthy and he's going to be an advocate for the people. 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That's not, that's not occurring. And because we do need to call a spade a spade, the gold standard didn't protect anyone from this happening. And I, I was first a gold bug before being a bitcoiner. Right. And I think that helps understand the severity of the situation we're in. But I think you have, you have to go right to the war side because there's so much that occurs that's just horrific and anti. Human. Yeah, right. The, the, the technology used in World War I is unbelievable, hence the Geneva commencement is probably the most vicious example of war hopefully we will ever see. And hopefully we don't have a nuclear holocaust where there's chemical weapons. And you know, I think there was 12 million horses that died and they tried it. They were demoing all these weapons. You could argue that that's what World War I was about. We're creating these new weapons we're going to turn into pharmaceuticals and we're going to test them on the young boys. That would be against. Yeah, you can make that argument. Yeah. And then, so I think first things first is you severely reduce the probability of war with a bitcoin standard. And then I ultimately think you then benefit health. Yeah. Because if you're not worried about how am I going to pay my ever increasing power bill and my ever increasing tuition cost, you then are only focused on, you're in, you're looking inward. Yeah. Towards health. And then in whatever order then spirituality, fulfillment. Yes. Yeah. Well, so again, in the mindset of the beginner listening to this, it would be like, okay, what do you mean? Bitcoin would prevent war or mitigate war, maybe to take it even a step back. It's like the genesis of the central bank itself is that central custodian of gold. Right. And we needed a custodian of gold because gold is physical, basically doesn't move across telecommunications networks. So it doesn't work really well as a globally transactable money because it's a physical metal. So we needed to put all the gold in one or a few places and then transmit promises about it back and forth. All right. So we created the central bank is a consequence of the honey pot we created. But we created the honey pot to try to scale Gold as money. So isn't all of this like we'll take a break out of this. But like is this all traceable back to just that? Is this all just like a historical accident of gold being a physical metal that we determined to be money so that the whole human race has been fucking fighting over this stuff, centralizing it, controlling it, printing false derivatives on top of it called fiat currency used to manipulate people. Like is that what we're dealing with? I think, you know, gold had a role. I wouldn't say it was singular. Right. Because you do have to go to Babylon. Right. They literally, the historians on this and Eustace Mullins, et cetera, they call it Babylonian money man magic. Yeah. And it's the concept of just conjuring it into existence and for, and, and just counterfeiting it into existence. Yeah. Where they're European and Turkish and Ottoman iterations of gold receipts, Bankers acceptance notes. And these were derives that then widened as, as modern trade occurs. Sure. And. And gold had a role in enabling that. But I think conceptually you're going back thousands of years. Yeah. And there, there is these sort of. I mean there is a dark element of why would we want to conjure money? Because it isn't about money. People even get misdirected by. Yeah. It's about control. Yeah. Like money is a construct. We all know that. And areas like Pacific Islanders who had seashells. Right. That, that beautiful tender still didn't keep them from killing each other. Yeah. Right. Because it's physical. So we have to, we have to look out from just the, the referenced in the economists of Europe to hey, this occurred at a localized level at much smaller degree because of the physical element of the money itself. And I think that gives people. Oh, this is why we are being so passionate about discussing this. Yeah. Well, and that's the key insight I think is that Bitcoin's non physical gold more or less. I mean that's a metaphor digital gold. And just by virtue that it cannot be printed to fund the war machine and that is not as easily seized. It's like if you do it in a multi key it's damn near impossible to seize. So now we've reduced like both the, the major. And you never give up your phrases or that. I mean I like if anyone can survive the torture or whatever, I can bring it. But you've now cut off the number one funding source for the war machine, which is money printing. And then you've also given people a hyper portable hyper concealable form of Digital money that's very hard, if not impossible to confiscate. Okay, well. Well, there goes all your funding for systematic violence and there goes your incentive for systematic and local violence. So what does that mean? Do we, do we now usher ourselves into a world that is much more non violent. Yeah. I mean every example where supply side money, not Kenzian supply side, but a supply economy, money that was sovereign was started. It was awesome. And then each group and or persons who started doing that in the last 500 years were always eliminated. Whether it was Hitler or as JFK or is Abraham Lincoln. And you're saying, when you say sovereign money system, could you just explain what that means? What I mean is that the public treasury. Yeah. Which for lack of a better phrase. Is honest banking system. Correct. Yeah. That the consciousness of the public utilizes for the good of the public. Public. Yeah. And its quantity is not determined by a cabal. Essentially. Essentially. And where there's been instances of that money. Yeah. Both the culture and the economy rise in tandem and parabolically. And this is, you know, Time magazine for Hitler calls it the, the economic miracle. Yeah. From when he was elected to then World War II. That doesn't mean he wasn't a maniac and a psychopath. It just means look at the money. Right, Right. Despite how crazy those folks were and how well it worked. Yeah. It means. Yeah. Despite craziness, psychopathy, like there were smart economic policies put in place, but a lot of those policies are just centered on free market economics. Right. It's like let's don't print the money, don't crop, don't create all these anti competitive. Rome. Rome's a great example that's written about by hundreds of thousands of authors. The quantity in currency of Gold was 99,900 by the end when Justinian, I believe it's Constantinople and all that schism's happening, yada yada yada, as 384. 484, give or take. Right. It's only 3%. Yeah. The coinage crisis of 1690, John Locke, while he was brought in. Yeah. Right. They, they just reduced the, the species by 20% and it caused all chaos. So we, we know for certain that the soundness and hardness of money and the sovereignty of that money is very, very important. Yes. To the point. The integrity of the money supply is almost, I don't know if it's, it's just essential to the integrity of the civilization itself. The civilization will reflect its, its monetary instrument and supply. Yes. And 100, that's the, that's the right metaphor too. Because money is reflective in many ways. Right. Like it's reflecting potential goods and services. It's kind of a form of social memory in a way. It's like, oh, whoever has money is like, oh. Because presumably they provided something useful to someone in the past, that's why they have money now. And it. And somehow civilization comes to reflect the characteristics of the monetary standard we adopt, which is really bizarre to think about. But it's interesting. But I mean you. It what I look at it as, it's like if you feed a cow what they're supposed to eat, Delicious, beautiful. Grass, get the amazing ribeye. Right. If you feed them grain and corn, what do you get? McDonald's burger. Yeah. Okay. It's. It, there's no, it's not, it's not different. Yeah. And just like if you feed the. Humans freedom and we make beautiful things. Correct. Right. Coerces and manipulate us. And it's like, well of course. And here we, we even are so bold. We have the phrase that's gone kind of viral the last five to ten years is cash is trash. Like wait, we respect our money so little. We respect our politicians. So oh, they just print it. Oh, and everybody's okay with that? Yeah. And then now you have interviews with. This is where it really, really pisses me off. And it's frustrating. At higher learning centers we call colleges and universities, people like Charlie Kirk would go in and try and enlighten and raise consciousness and ask questions. And people did not even fundamentally understand why they made these subjective opinions that they were displaying. And that's just mind boggling. And yes, weak men call hard times. Yes, we're for turning. And that's why my goal with you here today was just really show people look, this is what they've done. This is a result of this system. Here we are right now and we're given whatever the grace of God gives us to solve what we can solve between the decisions of just a few entities. Amen to that. And hopefully embracing the gifts that the market has given us like decentralized media, the Internet, like you know, there knowledge is power. Right. You can actually go out knowledge properly applied through action as power. Let me say that. And that seems to be the biggest wind we have in ourselves. Yeah, right. Is that we can learn and we can share this message wide. It's hard to stop the flow of information in 2025. And that's what these institutions feed on is like, you know, the ignorance, the darkness, the fear. Yeah, well, they're Literally. But now we're casting light on it. They literally feed on frequency, if you want to be more specific. Okay. And. And those who are listening that know will. Will. Emotional frequencies. Yeah. Off your biofield. Yeah. I mean that, that's a whole deeper thing, but it's all. It's all related and correlated because they give you the apparatus of info war. Right. Here's your free Tick tock, your free Instagram, your free whatever, your msnbc, the products for. You're the product. You're the product. Okay, if I'm the product, what's the agenda with the product? Who has demand for the product? Who. Cui bono? Who's benefiting from the product? Product is certainly not me. Right. And I think we're here to try and disrupt that process a little bit and to the point. On frequency, they feed on low frequency. Yeah. And the two frequency they love the most is fear. And then the lowest of low frequency, which is shame. And this is on a spectrum. People should look this up if they don't know what I'm talking about. I've read a book recently, Letting Go, and it went through this exact frequency. And it's in. This is. We're talking physics. This is measured in hertz. I'm actually wearing an arc crystal that is designed to sit over the heart. And because the heart's where your resonance comes from, it increases the frequency, which then increases consciousness. By increasing consciousness, I have higher clarity, I'm less afraid, and then I'm more productive, which is why I can sit here like a maniac and riff on this. And so I think the. The point that people need to understand, listening to us, is that you have the authority and sovereignty to decide. Yes. And if you choose to get out of this fiat matrix one step at a time, there are plenty others like us that have done it and are doing it. But you will naturally have less fear, less guilt, less shame, less doubt, which then every step forward from that will improve parabolically. Yes. So let's talk about Executive Order 6102. It's a very important chapter in this story. What is that? What happened, and what were the consequences of Executive Order? It's important to re litigate this because people are somehow, you know, mind effed to believe that the government can do no harm. This is a very precise and specific example of the government inflicts inflicting maximum harm. Right. And then remember, this is also timed with the rollout of the income tax. So first, Mr. Breedlove, 6102 is going to give us the authority to confiscate your gold holdings at a price we determine $20.67 and then create the penalties if you do not comply, and imprisonment, giant fines. Exactly that. I think it was $15,000, which in those days is like 15 million. Right. So the point of highlighting and relitigating this is to understand that it took the Federal Reserve System to be put in place to then allow really dark and nefarious things for American constituents that were hired by other Americans to do. Their will and bidding. Yeah, legally. It's crazy and it's, it's deeply, deeply sad that that occurred. And, and it's, it's part and parcel of the agenda to debilitate you spiritually and then financially to prep you for war. Because I knew that was coming as part of the agenda. And we see this in the modern realm. It sometimes is disguised as eminent domain. It sometimes is disguised as foreclosure or short sale. And all of these apparatuses that exist around the central banking squeeze tentacles. Because that picture always come to mind is this the octopus over the money truck? You know. It just, it, it literally debases morality. Right, because it puts, you imagine you're. Paying people to steal from people. You're paying people to steal from people. Yeah. Like, are you surprised that you get bad outcomes? Like one good example is, wait, we've sent 370 billion to Ukraine, yet we still have homeless people. You know, and people. There's been enough rabble rousing around. Hey, no foreign wars, no foreign lobbies. Why are we, you know, financing all this stuff? And they don't, they're not even listening to their constituents who are paying them to do their will. Right. So it's this egregious dereliction of duty. And I think 6102 needs to be reviewed by those who are concerned about the future and need to be cognizant about the past. And what was this, the actual numbers on this, like, what was the actual gold confiscated? 770 million worth in dollars. That in those days. So in 1933, $770 million of gold was seized. And that's valued at 20, $20.67. And gold today is 5,4000 and something an ounce. Well, so do your inflation adjusted on the dollar amount and then do. I was going to say you could get the ounces of gold seized, right? The 770 million divided by $20 an ounce to get your ounces and then multiply that by today's price and I don't know what that number would be but insane. The multiple. Yeah. So whatever the factor between 20 and 4000 something is is what that's going to be many trillions. I would assume it's. It's a unfathomable number that your own government that you're paying to steal from you. You paid your government to steal your gold from you. What a dark chapter. Well, and that kind of predated but set up the great taking apparatus. What was that? That's the dematerialization of securities beginning in 1964 culminating with safe harbor provisions in 2000 2010. And that was the, the theft of property rights to securities. Yeah. And I, I think we have to go to the genesis point where there was that asset forfeiture and confiscation. And that is part like inflating away the purchasing power of currency is just one vector of the central banking effect. And I think maybe just as important as that is this, this legislative allowance that occurs where oh we can basically finance both sides or all sides to then get the outcome we want. What's the outcome? The outcome is all securities held in street name. You don't own them. That's right. They're no longer bearer instruments. Right, Correct. Yeah. And that's David Rogers Webb. That book is on the, on the reading list, everybody. It's a. Once you pick it up, you're not going to put it down. Yeah. Essentially all of the books are like that. There's also a documentary of that book online as well. The great taking. Really? I haven't seen the documentary. Don't quote me on it. But I'm pretty sure there is a documentary. Okay. Based on the book. It's called life. Yes. 160 ish billion. Yes. Is the 770 million. And that seems about right. I mean that's a very large number. But the TR to be in the trillions would be too large. I think that's like. I think all the millionaire billionaire wealth in the US is like only a few trillion. Right. I think it's two, four or five. Yeah. Like not much. So if they seized a trillion it's like. Well that's like. I mean that would be crazy. And we have an asset base in this country of north of, of 200 trillion. There's 232 trillion of just U. S based credit derivatives. Well, a lot of that's paper. Yeah. I mean but they're, they're liabilities. The notionals go super high. It has negative convexity. Yeah, for sure. And that's why debt's Such a weapon of mass destruction. Yeah. Anywho, back to the, the gold confiscation that sets up the property rights confiscation. Yeah. And so we're just walking forward from event to event. Yeah. What these components of their agenda of just total dominion over any population that lives under this system. And it's all flavors of the same stuff. Right. Stealing your stuff, violation property, like it's the same thing, different rapper. And all of those acts 33, 34 and 40 were basically a usurping of the entire financial system of the United States and a consolidation. So where does the banking holiday come into this? So banking holiday was a component of. All right, we confiscate your gold. Now we're going to dictate which banks get to play and whose deposits are actually still deposits. And they basically did a four day holiday and 9,000 banks did not reopen by mandate. Whether they were solvent or not, it didn't even matter. And so the people's gold held in those banks was gone. Seized. Yeah. And their cash deposits gone. Yeah. And again it doesn't, it's not too far fetched to go. Well if that was your eye, you'd be so angry you'd be willing to go get a gun and run around in eastern or western Europe and just shoot everybody. Right. So I want to keep drawing that, that parallel towards a setup for the psychology for war. Because When World War I happened in the 90s, I think it was 93 to be exact percent of US citizens polled did not want to go to war. And then again In World War II, it's super high. We don't want to go to war. We, we like our stake, our trucks, our, our homes, our suburbs, our communities, etc. Yeah. Americans were escaping that largely because you were only a few generations removed from the Revolutionary War to begin with, which was a fourth turning as well. And you know, now we're here and we're kind of on the opposite spectrum, but for the same reasons. Here's your stimmies, just shut up and consume because we want you to consume while we're grifting and thefting everything away from you until the moment we're just going to outright take it. And so little now are as conscious as the people were then of this apparatus. This. There was warnings and there were papers, periodicals, John Jacob Astor. There were so many people that were against what occurred. And then even Calvin Coolidge himself and Woodrow Wilson later they, they reflected on all of the stuff they whoops. We shouldn't have ever thought that this was going to be good jfk, you know, and then whether genuinely or not, now President Trump where he's pointing the finger at the Fed. Well, how, how do you get to decide what interest rates are? And you have to understand that they are enacting their agenda agnostic to what you think is necessary. Right, right, right, right. And so if they, the signal here is if they drop rates and do QE again, they're not ready to just outright confiscate everything yet. They're. They're gonna grift for, for longer. And why is that? That's just to, they're just not in position yet. I, I think that's a, a macro view. Yeah. But I also think there's an element because we are in the weak men part of the fourth turning. I think a lot of these, you know, globalists or cabal Goliath, many names for the same thing. These mal. Multinational corpse, multinational super PACs. You know, I don't think they're as cunning, they're as smart or very simply as healthy as their great grandfathers were and great great grandfathers when these plants were hatched. So I think that, that when, and I can kind of see this in the price action when faced with, oh, everything's going to get vaporized. Like, oh no, we'll kick the can. And, and that was evident. Like, why would the Federal Reserve juice repo with 125 billion if they were ready to just go mine? Yeah. So I'm not trying to speculate on all the minutia, but you could say, oh, maybe the CBDC isn't all the way ready. Maybe, you know. Yeah, it seems like, I mean, I'm maybe slightly more optimistic than you about all this, but like the money printing is just the path of least resistance. And so they, I know we always use that term, but like whoever's benefiting from that would just run that until the currency hyperinflates. I mean, not only is there historical precedent for that, but there's also a huge incentive to do that. So I don't know why, like the great taking. I'm not sure like if that, that's maybe their backstop or something. It's like you don't actually own anything. Right? It's like you already don't own anything. You already don't own anything. But I don't think that measure would be put into place because that would spark so much resistance. Whereas if you just print the currency into nothing, then you can steal everyone's stuff that way you hyper Inflate the currency. And people still, because we do it today, we print money in broad daylight today. And people are like, oh, thank you, thank you for my stimmy. And so there's all that plausible deniability that the state gets for the money printing that they don't get for the Excellency seizure. And I'm, I was highlighting the, the chutzpah differential. Right. Like these people are weaker. Yeah, yeah. They're like, okay, the Fed. That was Hungarian. Chutzpah. Yeah, yeah. Or moxie, if you want to be more Italian. Gumption. Yeah. Gumption. Yeah. Right. So, you know, they, they sell this. Oh, look at all these bank pan, which we created, you know, 1800s and bank panic of 1907. And then they get the opportunity to be the so called lender of last resort, and they don't even do it. So I, I'm, I'm in agreement with you in the current iteration that it's not the highest order or highest probability that they're about to just confiscate everything. But when you add in the transhumanist side, the technocratic side, then you kind of have a trifecta of evil there where, well, what are our means of defending ourselves if not capital stock, if not food production or asset base? We are. Then we can't defend ourselves. So I think if they're done grifting, then it starts. If we get back property rights, that delays and, or prevents it. And if more people raise their consciousness and awareness to this, there will be good attorneys who combat the legislative side. I mean, this, this book is well known now. Yeah. And then, yeah, I think you've, you've done a phenomenal job of exposing everything around this fiat darkness. Yeah, well, sunlight's the best disinfectant, right? It is. And the last six, seven years you've been doing this. You brought in experts at their field that have disclosed their vector, the element that they're participating in and working with. And, and again, I'll mention Uncle Jack. He has a very specific and precise view of his experience, which is tangential to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Without, without this apparatus, what he experiences, it's very unlikely would even have occurred. Sure, sure. If you're a bitcoiner, you need the Orange Club app. It's where you can connect with other sovereign individuals locally and globally. It's great for when you travel to meet local bitcoiners, to go to bitcoin meetups, and to discover local merchants that accept sats. No distractions, no noise, just Real bitcoiners. So download the Orange Club app today and find your local bitcoin tribe. Yeah. All right, this, I just feel like these numbers need to be read because this is important here. So 30 out of 120 million Americans were in the stock market in 1929. So that's one out of four. And then today it's 62 out of 340 million. So around one out of six maybe. So. So the stock market participation has gone down. I've also seen this chart where like the number of hours working at minimum wage necessary to buy one share of the S&P 500 since 1971 has gone through the roof. Right. So like they're getting priced out of the stock market. Why is that important though? Why is that data important? Because even though we're making the point that you don't have property rights to the securities, the securities assets in general are by de facto a benefactor to the money printing. Just by the denominator being the higher. The percentage of the assets in your portfolio, the more, the more protected you'll be from the inflation versus the higher percentage of cash. Right? Yeah. And then you can debate the value of realness or hardness of those assets. But I think here, because of technology, stocks are very easily flipped into, from Fiat, therefore they're going to get sort of an extra gear on the gas pedal on the correlation to M2 to money printing. And then you've got kind of more high beta versions that are out there in different vehicles and some crypto, etc. But the reality of it is is that the pricing out has kept wealth building from occurring certainly at the minimum wage to middle class level, where unless you were able to save in assets that appreciated at least in parity with inflation or slightly above, all you were doing is just getting constantly eroded against. Okay, I think what I want to ask you a question about like where we are today with bitcoin, but is there anything else we should touch on about the Great Depression or any of its parallels in today? I don't know, like, like key takeaways for people. It's like, okay, if the possibility of 2029 being another giant collapse, like what should people be thinking about to prepare for that? I, I think just to summarize, the Great Depression mathematics on industrial production and manufacturing were a 60 and 70% loss in both. Why am I mentioning that? That the signaling just from the, the financial markets itself has an end result in the real economy that can be and will be devastating. And so that, that brings us to to here I think we are. We've been engineered to be right on the cusp of an event like that and it will be at their discretion. Do I agree that path of least resistance to is the big print. Well 13 trillion is coming then soon. And I honestly I also just on that I think because we did 700 billion in 0888,000 billion which is 8 trillion in 2020. I think it goes up by another order of magnitude. I think we see a print of 60 to 80 trillion carry the two. It doesn't matter. That's what I really think. Yeah. Yeah. I can't even. Because it's not real mathematics or quantitative method. I can't even. It's like that game show the Drew Carey Whose line is it anyways or the points are made up and they don't matter. Yeah. I mean do showed us in Q1 they're literally just going boom. Yeah. Magic money computer. So I do we. Why don't we just have a giant debt jubilee and just press a restart button. Yeah. And the answer is related to this. Because who the creditors are. Yes. Yeah. And. And so I I just want everyone to be prepared mentally and armed with the facts from history to you know essentially game theory out what's our. What are current scenarios and what's probabilistic outcomes. Yeah. And then as it relates to Bitcoin I've explained this a few times on a couple podcasts. People are we're expecting a lot of price reflexivity because of all the other institutions are here. There's all these products. Well you're forgetting all the price suppression that comes with it. Correct. And we and the two can't go. And let's talk about that a little bit like just why is that why does price suppression come with all this institutional adoption? It's. It's a hard hard thing to unpack. But I'll get to the mechanical which is easiest. Paper shares have no tether to reality. Yeah. So what one can do go look at the prospectus of Ibid or any other ETF Understand the following Is there a ownership authority that's a subsidy of whatever. Is there a requirement for market making and then what is the create redeem process? Because create redeem means oh we're conjuring shares and then burning shares and conjuring and burning and then try and get to a rough mathematics on how much of underlying share spot whether it's underlying shares of Tesla, Apple Caterpillar or it's bitcoin. Because these, these paper instruments are what Cause price distortions or price suppressions. Yeah. Right. Then you look at. Because you can sell bitcoin that you don't actually have. Correct. So and those instruments allow for shorting without actually shorting. Yeah, they allow. Then there's options on this stuff which creates a tail wag the dog situation. Out of the five Greeks, the one that is the tail wag the dog is referenced is gamma. And. And because humans can't help themselves but chase yield, oftentimes a short gamma position is put into place because people will sell options to get income. Right. And okay, well mechanically a market maker has to take the other side of that trade. Right. They're going to be a buyer of that. What do they have to do to. To offset their risk? They've got a short. Yeah. So what we're doing is creating like this compression envelope where the free price discovery and boy was it beautiful of since inception even really through like 21. But you can mark the day once the ETF comes out. The fractal nature of it changed. Yeah. And it naturally it looks more like equities now. Yeah, right, of course. So we have to recognize what's the causation behind that. And then on top of it you've got differentiating times of market participants. Right. So whereas defi led like decentralized systems now basically US equity hours are now the primary trait where there's volume. Except when you have these giant liquidation events that typically they occur on offshore exchanges like Binance. So where are we? Are there still Bitcoin 4 year cycles? Like where are we? I mean I would argue against because time's non linear. Right. So the idea of a four year cycle is just in my view someone's explanation of how there might be things that are linked that are occurring. Yes. Is there a halvening cycle? Yes. Is there a presidential cycle? Those happen to both be four years. So it's, it's like Pavlovian's dog. This is something that we, we are familiar with. So we cite this as why it's occurring. But the why is always subjective. The how is objective. That's mechanics and flows. I, you know we've definitely seen some whale selling some new whale buying that that makes sense on, on liquidity depth. But I, I'm not seeing a completed impulse structure off the 22 low. But I also want to tell people that you know, from its inception it's been in what we would call a secular bull market in quantitative terms, where the 18s and the 22s and the 15, those were really cyclical bull bear markets. Excuse me, within a secular bull market structure. So in my view we haven't really seen a secular bear market materialize in bitcoin. And you can then further give evidence to that thesis by saying this is the era of money printing. 08 now. So what. What would it look like in an era of no money printing? What does it look like in an era of even more money printing? We have to extrapolate that out. And so at least in the intermediate term looking at out six to 18 months. I always do thing in threes because three is a magic number if I'm a bull. My bull case is that the correction we're in because even the, the so called all time high, just like the November 21st high was a corrective high in fractal structure. We, we tend to call those B wave highs. And it was actually part of a larger corrective structure that's really been in effect the last three or four months. So here we're either done or nearly done with a correction and then it's really going to rip like big time. Or go ahead. No go ahead. Or we've begun another cyclical bear market and that could retrace into the 60s to low 70s. Not that big of a deal. It'll pretty much manifest itself over the next three to six months. Incomplete anyways. Or the path that really no one's kind of prepared for and is kind of on the. The tail side is that we actually are beginning this giant super cycle bear and everything. And it's part of this whole thing. This whole thing. So the 1929 thing, right, where the Fed stops intervening and stops the money printing and just lets everything go to hell in a hand basket. Yeah. And I, I think. And that. So that, I mean that definitely seems like the worst possible scenario. I think best. What can you do to protect yourself in that scenario though? Bitcoin is still going to be a. Bitcoin, still going to own bitcoin. But like liquidity is going to dry up. So the prices of everything is going to collapse and then there's no more Fed intervention. So like want to just be a few weeks before people are like rioting in the streets and looting and all that stuff. I'm not going to paint a pretty picture of what that would look like. But we're, I would. I think we're halfway there already. You have suicides, near highs, depression highs. People are taking bioweapons and calling it medicine. Homeless is at highs. There's illegal immigration, you know Pandemonium all over the planet. Yeah, you have economies on last legs only really to do with the oligarchy and monopoly that exists at the top where they already said, oh, you're your business is an essential, Robert, but we're going to let Amazon and Costco stay open. But you go out of business. Right. So they've already done all that. We're already in the predicament we're in that's mostly more archaic and demonic than 1929, to be honest, in the condition of the average human. And the only other last steps is just the literal confiscation of the remaining wealth and the closing of the, the whatever businesses they want to shut down. So I think we're halfway to that point anyways from a depression. I mean consumer sentiment just hit an all time low in the stats on the latest report. So there's already that depression in financial picture and psychology. Gotcha. So that's an important point to that word depression. The fact that we do have psychological depression or economic depression. There's like, there's a reason those two words are the same word. Correct. They both relate to an inability to relate to the future. Right. It's like, oh, I can't, I don't have any hope no matter what I do at work or what I try. Like my life is the same and I can't get ahead. Well, that leads to psychological depression and that's also what economic depression is effectively. Right. It's like everything's going down, everything's tanking, there are no jobs, there's no hope. So this despair situation, all right, in the last like just couple of minutes we have here. What are you do. Like what are you doing? How are you preparing? How are you like, you know, I know you've got kids. I know he's on the verge of becoming a man. Like, how are you passing the, the gumption on to the little ones for this, to survive this future in every. Facet that we can, whether it's reading the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence is probably my absolute favorite. It's just the, the, and the thing I try to teach them is think of the courage of these few dozen men that sign their death warrants against the largest empire of the time and just so. And that fires them up. And then I think, you know, definitely being health focused with trying to detox, eat the cleanest and best you can, support local and regenerative farming, be okay with paying more for a product. You like, do business with people who value your business that benefit their families and create a good circle of commerce but also have your homestead and do your damnedest to prep. And I call it reasonable man test because we can't solve for all of this. It would be nice if we came out the gate and were re legislating everything. Essentially bankrupting the government to stop the money printing. Obviously they kicked out Elon and Doge. That started off looking to be great. Now it's not occurring. So we really just got to focus on family, friends, circle and vote with your, with your dollar. Right. But I think having food sovereignty, having weaponry and being good at weapons, having skills related to farming, related to repairs because these, these are things that in a grid down situation are. You're not going to get to call your plumber. Right. So you probably ought to know how to self reliance. Yeah. Okay, well sounds like good advice, man. Sounds like a pain in the ass too. I gotta learn how to plumb. I'm not a good plumber, man. No, I, I did learn how to at least install a new toilet and then turn off the water. Turn on the water and then a seat. But I'm just giving examples of things that were what we take for granted really. Yeah. No, I hear you. And to do you ask like what am I, what are we doing financially preparing is actually kind of easy. Right. Because like a captain goes down with a ship in a wreck. Well, you've just got to be married to the assets that you want to go through this with. Well the ones I certainly don't want to is n number of fiat instruments held at banks that I, I'm a subordinate creditor to. Of course. Yeah. So we, my wife and I have decided on the exact amount that we leave vulnerable to that and we actively invest into assets with the remaining else. Gold and bitcoin and assets and gold. Like an ounce of gold is going to be announced gold. A bitcoin is going to be a bitcoin. What it purchases in goods and services are determined hopefully by a willing participant. Right. And I think people are just absolutely mind fucked by this illusion that they're going to become magically wealthy. The reason they even have that illusion is because wealth is extraordinarily difficult to build in this fiat system because it's raped and pillaged away from them and then they're sold that dream. Yeah. So I just, I just kind of have to regress the lust and greed of it getting easier and just build the base and just live in the lanes that we've created to deploy capital and deploy time because time capital is an illusion. Time is the, is the most important thing. So I would argue for everyone's like, best interest, get your plan, whatever it is, have your comms ready with your friends and family and then lower your time preference and enjoy what, what you have. Because the order of magnitude of what the potential entropy in this system will cause. Yeah, all we can do is prep to the best of our ability. Yeah, I think that's sound, sagacious advice. Thank you, sir. Thank you, brother. Always good to talk to you, Chris. My pleasure. Where can people find you online? Very little places. I mean, you know, we've. I've done, I've done enough of public speaking at conferences and select appearances with friends like you. But our website is Hyperion Decimus. 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